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    "Why He-Man Is "Not on the Table" for Netflix's 'She-Ra' Reboot"

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    So that's cuz Noelle doesn't want it.

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    I don't think He-Man would fit well with the Netflix She-Ra, so I am fine about that. I don't think the creative people behind the new cartoon get how to present a non-comical, heroic, human male. Mattel said at Power-Con that He-Man would not be in it.

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    Just came up with a fan theory that Kyle is secretly Prince Adam and regardless of whether Adora reaches Eternia or not, he'll never discover his true identity.
    Solves the why no He-Man dilemma. People that want him in the series can choose to believe it's Kyle, raised to never know his true identity, people that want no connection to He-Man can just go with the generally accepted belief, he's just a horde cadet.

    In certain versions of the She-Ra mythos, she was raised as "Despara", why not have Prince Adam raised as "Kyle"?


    Imagine the potential fan fiction?!
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    If He-Man is not going to appear in the series (which for the record, I don't have an issue with), that just furthers my opinion that Adora's transformation chant should've been "For the honor of Light Hope!".

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    Quote Originally Posted by ABrown View Post
    If He-Man is not going to appear in the series (which for the record, I don't have an issue with), that just furthers my opinion that Adora's transformation chant should've been "For the honor of Light Hope!".
    Iīm sorry to destroy your theory but she doesīt know whom the voice belongs to she is hearing.

    Similar to NA He-Man she should say: For the honor of Etheria. Since she is the defender for Etheria in this canon.
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    I don't want or even pretend to He-Man crossin' over just like in the original series. Its She-ra time up for sure. And even if other plans are wip for He-Man by Sony or Dreamworks, I could totally see Adam/battlecat popping into this animated universe just for a special episode event; you see multiverse works as proven by DCcomics on TV and on film, just note Superman and Flash for example both are currently shown succesfully on TV but on the big screen too!
    You cant do this without consequences by the fans. She-ra is just an important part of the MOTU franchise and viceversa, so why split them?

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    I love He-Man and MOTU of course, but this is definitely She-Ra's time to shine on her own merits.
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    This is why I am confused about the decision to reboot She-Ra. I have no problems eliminating the He-Man connection, but it should have been completely. Don't even let questions linger. Eliminate Grayskull as part of her power phrase and you eliminate most of the curiosity, I would think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by He-Manis007 View Post
    This is why I am confused about the decision to reboot She-Ra. I have no problems eliminating the He-Man connection, but it should have been completely. Don't even let questions linger. Eliminate Grayskull as part of her power phrase and you eliminate most of the curiosity, I would think.
    I wouldn't mind a future She-Ra show where Hordak and the Hordesmen are out of the picture, so there is a complete divorce from MOTU. You could have Catra or Shadow Weaver lead or come up with a new male or female leader. I'm guessing Hordak will have a somewhat bigger role in season 2 and beyond of Netflix She-Ra, but he was barely in season 1 and I don't think Grizzlor and the other Hordesmen will ever be as big a deal as Catra and the other females. It made sense to make the Horde part of the Filmation She-Ra cartoon since all of Filmation's resources were moved from He-Man to She-Ra and Mattel still needed a way to promote the boy MOTU toys. In this era, it isn't necessary. I'd like to see a future He-Man show with Hordak & the Horde as the main enemies for a season or two, sort of like what would have happened in a season 3 of MYP He-Man.

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    I would love to see an Eternia-based Fright Zone in a future MOTU cartoon.

    I imagine at some point her use of the word "Eternia" and what "For the honor of Grayskull" actually means is going to have to come into play. Storytelling-wise, it seems like a real missed opportunity if they never explore where Adora actually came from. That said, I get what she's saying about including He-Man in THIS particular show and appreciate the managing of expectations rather than just being all cryptic about it.
    Personally, I don't think it would be impossible though. And obviously He-Man, if ever brought in for a few episodes, would be more akin to Dreamworks' She-Ra in terms of age, character, and style than he would Filmation. I'm not expecting "classic" He-Man to swoop in here.

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    In this She-Ra canon, she is the defender for Etheria and the sword belongs there.

    I could see Adora leaving Etheria to live with her family on Eternia at the end of this series leaving her She-Ra persona and the sword behind for the next She-Ra when ever she is needed.

    Adora is just the current She-Ra so basically she could leave and join Adam on Eternia. Maybe the Horde goes there and she is the strategic specialist and a huge asset for the fight against the Horde on Eternia.

    Meanwhile the princesses stay at Etheria and when a new thread emerges a new She-Ra gets picked since Adora isnīt on Etheria anymore. All problems solved.

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    Most of us know that POP and MOTU are two separate licenses. So, while I'd love to see a new MOTU cartoon that co-exists with the new POP cartoon, it also makes sense for there to be a MOTU cartoon that exists inside its own world simply because they are separate IPs.

    Plus, who knows? Maybe in time, Noelle will determine a way that MOTU would fit well into the universe she has helped create for POP. Regardless, I respect her choice to keep the new POP cartoon focused with its current canon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JVS3 View Post
    Most of us know that POP and MOTU are two separate licenses. So, while I'd love to see a new MOTU cartoon that co-exists with the new POP cartoon, it also makes sense for there to be a MOTU cartoon that exists inside its own world simply because they are separate IPs.

    Plus, who knows? Maybe in time, Noelle will determine a way that MOTU would fit well into the universe she has helped create for POP. Regardless, I respect her choice to keep the new POP cartoon focused with its current canon.
    Despite the headline, Stevenson does not state that "He-Man is off the table," only that she does not know how she would introduce him in the show. There is literally nothing in the article to justify the implication of the headline that He-Man is off limits or that he will not appear down the road. Now, that very well may be the case, but there is nothing in the article that suggests that. It is click-bait journalism, and people are running with the the headline without reading the article.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam_Prince of Eternia View Post
    Despite the headline, Stevenson does not state that "He-Man is off the table," only that she does not know how she would introduce him in the show. There is literally nothing in the article to justify the implication of the headline that He-Man is off limits or that he will not appear down the road. Now, that very well may be the case, but there is nothing in the article that suggests that. It is click-bait journalism, and people are running with the the headline without reading the article.
    Very accurate. Someone said to me the other day "There won't ever be a new He-Man cartoon?" to which I replied "...huh??? That's not true."
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    Mattel did say at a Power-Con 2018 panel I went to that He-Man would not be in it. I would venture at this point in the process with all the episodes likely to be released in the next year or two, it would be tough for any major changes to Noelle's currently existing plans.

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    When Noelle was interviewed at New York Comic Con several weeks back and asked about what they can and can't use, she said they are "trying not to step on any potential future stories." They have their own specific sandbox to play in with this version of She-Ra. In another interview she had this to say regarding whether or not He-Man would be appearing at some point:

    "There are no plans to right now," Stevenson said. "He's doing his own thing, he's got his own universe. She deals with part of his lore in slightly removed ways."
    Also, I think Firefly mentioned that even Rob David indicated that He-Man would not be appearing in the series. This was at Power-Con.

    In this Inverse article, Noelle says: “He-Man is not really on the table for this iteration of She-Ra at all.”

    While I could be totally wrong, I think maybe the author assumed that Noelle was providing some hope of He-Man appearing because she was expanding on her answer with the bit about how difficult it would be to incorporate MOTU.

    Based on what has been said in the past, it seems to me that they are allowed to use He-Man. So, yes, technically he is on the table. However, they are choosing not to for the aforementioned reason.

    But who knows. Maybe they will name-drop Prince Adam / He-Man at some point or actually have him make an appearance. Things can always change. However, we have to consider that they are already "done" with 4 arcs of 13 episodes. Maybe it would feel shoehorned to include him at this point and that's also why they don't want to do it? Just speculating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallstar View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Firefly View Post
    Mattel did say at a Power-Con 2018 panel I went to that He-Man would not be in it.
    Also, I think Firefly mentioned that even Rob David indicated that He-Man would not be appearing in the series. This was at Power-Con.
    It was also stated at Power-Con that He-Man and She-Ra would appear together in animation, but not in the Princesses of Power series. And that if the first season of She-Ra was successful, they may do a He-Man spin-off series. Hence, He-Man and She-Ra together in animation, but not in Princesses of Power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niki View Post
    Iīm sorry to destroy your theory but she doesīt know whom the voice belongs to she is hearing.
    Well it's really more of an opinion than a theory. But what do you mean she doesn't know whose voice she's hearing? Light Hope introduces herself (or itself) in the first episode before she transforms for the first time.

    Similar to NA He-Man she should say: For the honor of Etheria. Since she is the defender for Etheria in this canon.
    That works just as well. Either one makes more sense than "For the honor of Grayskull" if there's no connection to He-Man/Eternia in this series.

    Actually, the more that I think about it, I think I like "For the honor of Etheria" even more than my suggestion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ABrown View Post
    Well it's really more of an opinion than a theory. But what do you mean she doesn't know whose voice she's hearing? Light Hope introduces herself (or itself) in the first episode before she transforms for the first time.


    That works just as well. Either one makes more sense than "For the honor of Grayskull" if there's no connection to He-Man/Eternia in this series.
    I re-watched that scene and you are right Light Hope tells Adora her name. I confused that scene with the teaser where the dialogue was used but there they left out the Light Hope part.
    In the scene which is shown in the show Light Hope than says the phrase BY THE HONOR OF GRAYSKULL and Adora repeats the word Grayskull. Psychological thatīs the best way to remember new words or names.

    And Light Hope says: You will (understand).
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    To be perfectly blunt, him not making an appearance is a good thing, he would only be presented as a bumbling inferior buffoon!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zentron View Post
    To be perfectly blunt, him not making an appearance is a good thing, he would only be presented as a bumbling inferior buffoon!
    You have absolutely no proof to support that claim. The real truth is none of us know how Noelle and her team would treat the MOTU cast of characters. So there's no benefit to assuming the worst, for a possibility that may never even happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JVS3 View Post
    You have absolutely no proof to support that claim. The real truth is none of us know how Noelle and her team would treat the MOTU cast of characters. So there's no benefit to assuming the worst, for a possibility that may never even happen.
    Actually I do, the proof is about 13 episodes long (so far), and there is benefit to assuming the worst, as it means that you're not as surprised when it happens and not as annoyed! Though yes, it may never happen, which is a wonderful thought!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zentron View Post
    Actually I do, the proof is about 13 episodes long (so far), and there is benefit to assuming the worst, as it means that you're not as surprised when it happens and not as annoyed! Though yes, it may never happen, which is a wonderful thought!
    That's not proof. Just because you don't like the new She-Ra cartoon, when many others do like it, doesn't mean a darn thing about how a new He-Man cartoon would potentially be treated by the same creative team.
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    Very much is proof, do you really think they would change the way that they have written this show, just to incorporate He-Man? That's why it is so difficult for them to bring him in, he wouldn't fit with how moronic the characters are! Heck, they threw away her secret identity because it was too difficult for them to write for!!

    And it's not about liking or disliking (sweeping away the paid noise, it stands at a pitiful 16% popularity), if I had presented this as part of my final year presentation, I would not have passed, it fails on pretty much every level!

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