Modern ThunderCats Toys Thread (2)

[Wakko]

Looks like a glow in the dark Cheetara is coming.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CsZGCI8O...RlODBiNWFlZA==

Well, that's an easy pass.

[Lord Anubis]

Well, that's an easy pass.

The reuse makes sense, and while not the worst variant... she cant arch into her iconic run which is on all the promo stuff....... they did this to themselves.

[BushLady]

I assume she will eventually become available at other retailers just like their other GITD figures. And it's a crap shoot if they are listed for more or if they get discounted after sitting a while.

Usually the shipping charge kills it even more but $10.85 isn't terrible.

Not really interested in this version but if she eventually gets heavily discounted I might bite.

[Wakko]

Holy kitty crap, she's SIXTY-FIVE DOLLARS?!

BEFORE SHIPPING?

That is absolutely insane. She's a repaint. Of a smaller figure. She costs more than Mumm-Ra.

No wonder Brian Flynn said they're shifting to three-figure waves instead of four. If they're jacking up the prices yet AGAIN, a three-figure wave of Ultimates is now going to be $195 (before shipping/taxes). Not that long ago, we were getting four figures for $180.

This is ludicrous.

[Dcr4]

They're not jacking up prices all around. They started adding an upcharge to their glow in the dark figures last year starting with the Turtles. Allegedly due to the scarcity of the GITD pigment in these figures (according to Brian Flynn).

[Wakko]

They're not jacking up prices all around. They started adding an upcharge to their glow in the dark figures last year starting with the Turtles. Allegedly due to the scarcity of the GITD pigment in these figures (according to Brian Flynn).

Hmmm... okay. I certainly hope you're correct.

[Ornclown]

Regardless of why she costs so much money, this Cheetara is not worth the price.

The original version was delayed for a long time... and for what? She turned out worse than the original sample that everyone was upset about. Now we have a GITD version of it? No thanks.

......she's out of scale too.

[Mark M]

......she's out of scale too.

So is Lion-O, Jackalman, Pumyra, Jaga, Tygra and Vultureman.

Instead of another pointless glow in the dark variat they should be making a completely new sculpt with some muscle definition accurate to the animation model.

[nicholighkun]

Holy kitty crap, she's SIXTY-FIVE DOLLARS?!

BEFORE SHIPPING?

That is absolutely insane. She's a repaint. Of a smaller figure. She costs more than Mumm-Ra.

No wonder Brian Flynn said they're shifting to three-figure waves instead of four. If they're jacking up the prices yet AGAIN, a three-figure wave of Ultimates is now going to be $195 (before shipping/taxes). Not that long ago, we were getting four figures for $180.

This is ludicrous.

I really feel for those still collecting Classics. This is exactly why I quite the line. Space was already non-existant and I hate Super 7 with a passion for several reasons, not the least of which is their pricing. Their prices are criminal in my opinion.

[Grayskull Guardsman]

Their prices are criminal in my opinion.

Yes! All the variants have no new tooling and less accessories. They should be cheaper than the initial releases. And initial prices are ridiculous to start!

If these Ultimates were more sanely priced, I would be dipping my toes in the GI Joes, Power Rangers, Silverhawks, and more. But now I am only cherry picking Tcats and TMNT.

[MegaGearMax]

Yes! All the variants have no new tooling and less accessories. They should be cheaper than the initial releases. And initial prices are ridiculous to start!

If these Ultimates were more sanely priced, I would be dipping my toes in the GI Joes, Power Rangers, Silverhawks, and more. But now I am only cherry picking Tcats and TMNT.

Amazon has a few Ultimates that have went down in price. I just brought Duke and Snake Eyes from there this morning.

[Wakko]

It looks like Super7 is teasing a Cats Lair on their socials.

What does everybody think? $1,000?

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[chuc98]

It looks like Super7 is teasing a Cats Lair on their socials.

What does everybody think? $1,000?

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I think they're being too ambitious lol

[Oceanwalker]

It looks like Super7 is teasing a Cats Lair on their socials.

What does everybody think? $1,000?

lair.JPG

$700 max. $1,000 would be astronomical.

Also, the original was little more than a shell with a few action features. It ha way less playability than Snake Mountain or Castle Grayskull so interesting to see what they do to make it a must-buy.

[BCI Guy]

It looks like Super7 is teasing a Cats Lair on their socials.

What does everybody think? $1,000?

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Shipping in 2047!

[Secret]

It looks like Super7 is teasing a Cats Lair on their socials.

What does everybody think? $1,000?

lair.JPG

I wonder if maybe they can keep costs down by not doing a lame interior at all.

The Turtle Van and Thundertank were significantly priced up to do an interior.

I liked the interior upgrades for Snake Mountain but they're also kind of pointless since nobody will display it that way and you can't rotate the thing.

I'd honestly much rather buy separate dios of Cats Lair interior and exterior.

The interior will never look like the cartoon as a playset and it's so big that it would be impractical to access.

My hope is honestly that they don't try to fit the Thundertank inside a paw and they completely skip the interior and only spend money where it will likely show.

[BCI Guy]

My hope is honestly that they don't try to fit the Thundertank inside a paw and they completely skip the interior and only spend money where it will likely show.

It would be bigger than some people's apartments...

[Secret]

It would be bigger than some people's apartments...

Personally, I'd be very happy if Jada decided to do playsets and vehicles for Thundercats so I could scratch that itch affordably.

But I also think it would be smart and on-brand for S7 to expand on Ultimates and Reaction in the style of Mighty Max and Polly Pocket and the various TMNT minis.

It's a retro form factor hardly anybody is touching and there are TONS of their licenses I'd get sucked into in that style.

Not just Thundercats' lair but they could go REALLY deep. Make every vintage playset you never had the space for.

If they ever got a MOTU license again, we could get Grayskull, Eternia, Snake Mountain, and Crystal Castle but it wouldn't need to stop there. We could get every unproduced playset concept from vintage and Classics and the Macy's parade float.

TMNT wouldn't have to stop at Technodrome and Sewer Lair. We could get Channel 6 and Dimension X and the movie subway lair and the farmhouse and the Mirage watertower.

The USS Flagg becomes viable for Joe.

The World of Springfield for Simpsons.

But you could take dives into stuff nobody ever thought would get a playset. Memorable one off locations.

And I'd frankly buy into the post-ironic TV and sitcom stuff that Reaction does even more.

Breaking Bad Superlab! Central Perk Coffee! The Power Rangers' Juice Bar! Parks and Rec's Pawnee City Hall! Seinfeld's Apartment! Community's Study Room and Cafeteria!

For whatever reason, a Kenner Star Wars style Walter White struck me as dumb. But a micro figure with winnebago and superlab playset that folds up into a case shaped like Gus Fring's head? Sign me up!

[Wakko]

I wonder if maybe they can keep costs down by not doing a lame interior at all.

I'm with you. I'd be totally content with a well-sculpted, well-painted front facade, with in-scale steps that the figures can actually stand on. Light-up features for the eyes and insignia would be nice as well. I own Snake Mountain and Castle Grayskull and NEVER access or display their interiors.

I guess some collectors might cry foul if Super7 releases what is essentially half a shell, but if by doing so they can keep the cost down, I say go for it. Collectors nostalgic for an actual playset should be honest with themselves about whether or not they would play with/display an interior often enough to justify the inflated price of producing one.

[Ornclown]

I'm with you. I'd be totally content with a well-sculpted, well-painted front facade, with in-scale steps that the figures can actually stand on. Light-up features for the eyes and insignia would be nice as well.

This is an incredible idea!

Instead of a Cats Lair playset, I would much prefer a Cats Lair figure display.

[gbagok]

Even a figure display, in scale, would be bigger than any wall in my home. I so wish this could be another miniature like Icon Heroes did for Castle Grayskull and Snake Mountain. I so loved those, I wished we could get everything from Castle Brightmoon to Hawk Haven that way.

[KingRandorFacepalm]

I'm hoping (I think) for something that could maybe double as a set/facade for both ReAction and Ultimates. Larger for ReAction (obviously) and about the the original toy size relative to Ultimates.

As goofy as the original Cat's Lair and Thundertank were, size-wise, there's something awesome and ultimately nostalgic in the sizing. I can't imagine them making something large enough for the Ultimates tank to fit under one of the claws. Price-wise, I don't want them to, anyhow.


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[Adam_Prince of Eternia]

I'm with you. I'd be totally content with a well-sculpted, well-painted front facade, with in-scale steps that the figures can actually stand on. Light-up features for the eyes and insignia would be nice as well. I own Snake Mountain and Castle Grayskull and NEVER access or display their interiors.

I guess some collectors might cry foul if Super7 releases what is essentially half a shell, but if by doing so they can keep the cost down, I say go for it. Collectors nostalgic for an actual playset should be honest with themselves about whether or not they would play with/display an interior often enough to justify the inflated price of producing one.

Technically, the vintage Cat's Lair is only half a clamshell. So a front façade with a minimal interior would be consistent with that. However, I cannot imagine this is for Ultimates. It would be enormous. This must be for ReAction.

[Secret]

Technically, the vintage Cat's Lair is only half a clamshell. So a front façade with a minimal interior would be consistent with that. However, I cannot imagine this is for Ultimates. It would be enormous. This must be for ReAction.

If they did something like rotocasting the white parts (like you see with piggy banks or yard decorations), you'd need the main body to be hollow and surrounded by walls on all sides. Rotocasting involves more or less molding from the middle and it's the reason you can get 15 foot Halloween yard skeletons for $40. It's also what Mattel did on the Classics Giants and Staypuft Marshmallow Man to keep the cost down, although the lawn skeletons have much bigger runs to hit $40 retail.

Essentially, you could have all the white bits together cost S7 maybe $60-70 a unit. The blue bits, paint/labor, and electronics would be more expensive but they probably only make up about 15-20% of the total lair.

Rotocast loses some fine detail but the white parts of Cats Lair are probably carved stone that wouldn't have super-sharp features anyway, I figure.

If we broke it down, I'm thinking at typical S7 prices, the white part would contribute maybe $120 to the retail cost and the blue parts, electronics, and paint might contribute about $250-300 or so and you could get the whole thing done at maybe 3-3.5 feet tall and nearly as deep and probably 2.5 feet wide for under $500. But doing it this way would mean essentially no play features aside from lights and maybe sounds and possibly some turrets under the claws. No interior. Just a big diorama/piggy bank.

EDIT: As for why $60-70 manufacturing cost needs $120 retail price, I figure you have warehouse/handling expenses and maybe something like $75k+ in designer time invested into it on a 3000 unit run so the design budget alone has to recoup an easy $25 a unit. Design expense is negligible for Hasbro or Mattel with runs 20x as big or more and the ability to reuse parts of designs in later products. But design is probably a significant price driver with S7. Even NECA's runs are probably typically 4-5x as big. (Probably less so on TMNT because I think S7 ended up with unprecedented levels of demand there.)

[Iluvart]

If it's anywhere near the size of the diorama shown in this video (10 minutes 30 seconds into the video for the size), i would have to empty a whole storage shelf just to have it in the box, even if I could afford it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBNMcJkdnLI

I would be happy with a well detailed facade, and hopefully one that can be taken apart with hidden seams for easier storage.