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    Quote Originally Posted by smanomega View Post
    What this show did for many character developments over a period of 10 episodes is incredible . Even if cartoons were meant to be viewed in a certain order back then. We wouldn't have gotten anything close to this in just 10 episodes. There was so little done with over a hundred..
    Agreed.

    And I personally find the complaint over the lack of He-Man so silly. It's long-form storytelling! It's like complaining that a single He-Man form wasn't in every single chapter of a MOTU Novel (never mind that you get a lot of discussion in those chapters about He-Man, flashbacks of He-Man, Fear He-Man, Savage He-Man, and a ton of Adam where one must concede Adam and He-Man are the same person.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikey View Post
    Hey Ornclown, I tried to send you a PM but your box is full! I had an idea...and I thought I would share it with you.

    I was just thinking, with Jukka's book on MYP MOTU and all the various books about the Classic MOTU/POP lore, and the Netflix shows, someone should write a book on New Adventures Of He-Man, and ideally that someone should be you as you have a knowledge and passion for NA and it would be awesome. I would buy it!

    Cheers, Mikey

    I'm interested in anyone who is Writing New Lore for The New Adventures of He-man.. I feel that property could use a update! Let me know of anyone working on something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by he-ron View Post
    I'm interested in anyone who is Writing New Lore for The New Adventures of He-man.. I feel that property could use a update! Let me know of anyone working on something.
    I'm feeling like New Adventures could use some Revelation treatment! *wink* *wink*

    Kevin Smith? Rob David? You guys reading this??
    We need the POWER of the GOOD and the WAY of the MAGIC !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voodoo Magic View Post
    Oy, I lost brain cells reading this post. Did you even really watch the show?
    I wish I hadn't but yes, I did.

    Adam does NOT start "joking" with Skeletor at all during this scene. Not once. Not at all. And Adam laughs once, a mocking laugh, that makes Skeletor uneasy and stop laughing, because he doesn't know what's about to be unleashed.
    WHY does he start laughing? It is out of character and completely comes out of nowhere and just kills a dramatic scene. It is simply, not the realistic reaction Adam should have in this situation where he and his friends are about to die, and instead of just quickly transforming before Skeletor can stop him, he starts the whole "Silly Skeletor, Power-Os are not for you!"


    Skeletor didn't kill Adam twice. Skeletor stabbed him, yes, we can say he tried, but it was a wound which Teela healed, and Adam ultimately chose to die, absorbing the blast of the orb that Skeletor cracked, yes, but he chose to save everyone else.
    And the enemy of my enemy is my friend is a commonly used literary trope. It's done in many shows and films, and was even done in the Filmation series.
    He sure did. If Teela did not suddenly develop healing powers, he would have died. Skeletor INTENDED to murder him.
    Which, again, is something that goes completely against what Kevin wants to establish in the show later, that Skeletor does NOT want to kill He-Man, that his existence is dependent on him constantly fighting him (again, because he is a poor copy of Joker here). So why did he stab Adam, and then later almost kill him with his zombie-fog several times? Again, perfect example of bad writing.

    And here's the root of it. 200X fans versus Revelation. Well if Revelation gets canceled prematurely due to a lack of public interest to sustain it, they will both have something in common.
    I would dislike this show even if 200X had never existed and I had only seen Filmation and New Adventures. It has to do with bad writing and tonal whiplash. Suicide Squad (the James Gunn one) suffered also from this. You CAN do something that is funny and dark at the same time, but it takes talent, like Edgar Wright and Simon Pegg in Hot Fuzz, to do it.
    And LOL, public interest? 200X was cancelled due to poor toy sales and bad time slots - the same thing that killed 2011 Thundercats, and partially CN was to blame for that (they want to kill off every not-home-made show, which is why now they don't have anything else).

    And trust me, Revelation is already cancelled, after such a poor reception, Netflix would be stupid to invest in this. This isn't like Castlevania, where the first season had an overwhelmingly positive reception, and then it went on for 3 more despite how the show got increasingly worse and worse, because that initial momentum kept it going. Here, the reception was negative from the get-go.

    Quote Originally Posted by jibernish View Post
    I think this is part of why I didn't like the show - that Smith and co. were playing both sides at once. Trying to make it more serious, adult, mature, but also being jokey, corny, silly. The way they did that didn't work for me. It could work. David Lynch for example is both funny and terrifying in the same movie, even in the same scene (and admittedly he doesn't work for everyone), but Smith and Co. didn't pull it off for me. Seems like they did for a significant portion of the audience though.

    Whether Adam was joking with Skeletor after all those terrible things you mentioned or not, the scene was not serious enough for me given the things that have happened. Adam's attitude didn't match the situation. Which is fine if you are doing the Filmation-type show where nothing ever gets that dark. But MOTUR gets really dark, so for me, you can't just cut to fisting jokes, as-if ploys to be fun and witty, and then back to dark on a whim.

    When the Sorceress dies, I need some time to process that with the characters on screen. I didn't get that.
    Thanks! Exactly that. It is just a tone deaf style of writing. It can be done even in cartoons, as you said, to be both funny and terrifying. I mean, Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker again, when we see the flashback to what Joker has done to Tim Drake and he starts making jokes about Batman's identity (which he learned). All this undercut by how he basically tortured and brainwashed a CHILD. You almost laugh at his jokes and then you realize these are jokes told by an inhuman monster.
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    @BB Shockwave Is what you're responding to maybe two months old? Maybe three? I don't even remember when, nor all the details & minutiae of the conversation to respond properly.

    And to clarify the definition of killed, if you get stabbed and healed before dying you're not killed. When Teela says "we have to stop the bleeding" then magically heals him, he's not killed. A victim of attempted murder? Sure. But not killed. So Skeletor only killed Adam once.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ornclown View Post
    I'm feeling like New Adventures could use some Revelation treatment! *wink* *wink*
    Yes!

    Kevin Smith? Rob David? You guys reading this??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ornclown View Post
    I'm feeling like New Adventures could use some Revelation treatment! *wink* *wink*

    Kevin Smith? Rob David? You guys reading this??
    I absolutely agree with you Ornclown! I would love to see updated versions of the NA characters, especially Tuskador.
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