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    SYFY WIRE: "She-Ra Showrunner Pushes For He-Man Crossover Christmas Special At NYCC"

    "No joke, I worked with Kevin on The Goldbergs for a couple years, and I shamelessly texted him when it was announced he was doing He-Man," Michalka said. "I was like, 'Hey, Kevin. I hope you're well. I heard you were doing He-Man, and I just wanted to let you know that me and the She-Ra girls are ready for a crossover whenever you are. And he was like, 'I'm gonna consider this.'" - AJ Michalka

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    It wouldn't work. Not only because of the incompatible canons and styles. But because it appears Kevin pitched his series precisely as a reaction against Noelle, thinking he "knows better" and making a big fanfare of stating that his take will "stay true, really true to the source", implying and painting Noelle's take as an abhorrent "heresy".

    That was the crystal clear impression I got from the presentation he did at PowerCon, from the way he phrased things and the way he behaved there. So I can't say I got the most positive impression of this guy, precisely because of that.

    He's Noelle's enemy, in a nutshell. So Noelle's offer to him sounded candidly naīve, or as if she was trying hard not to take offense and offer him the pipe of peace instead, even though she must be perfectly aware Kevin hasn't the slightest intention to even talk to her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by uaxuctum View Post
    It wouldn't work. Not only because of the incompatible canons and styles. But because it appears Kevin pitched his series precisely as a reaction against Noelle, thinking he "knows better" and making a big fanfare of stating that his take will "stay true, really true to the source", implying and painting Noelle's take as an abhorrent "heresy".

    That was the crystal clear impression I got from the presentation he did at PowerCon, from the way he phrased things and the way he behaved there. So I can't say I got the most positive impression of this guy, precisely because of that.

    He's Noelle's enemy, in a nutshell. So Noelle's offer to him sounded candidly naīve, or as if she was trying hard not to take offense and offer him the pipe of peace instead, even though she must be perfectly aware Kevin hasn't the slightest intention to even talk to her.
    If Kevin really has that attitude, I'm kind of disapointed in him, I never thought he was that spiteful.

    That being said I doubt the crossover would tonely or coninuity wise. I would be fine if Dreamworks She-Ra had a one off special that introduced it's own version of He-Man and for Kev to introduce his take on Filmation She-Ra in Revelation. But these to iterations of the franchise should stay away from each other because they are to fundimentaly diferent. Ones made to apeal to a generations past the original fanbase, while the other is being made soely for the original fanbase.

    As for the old school fans, I think it's cool that they have somthing like Revelation, I just hope for their sake that is dosn't end up being another Digimon Adventure Tri, situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A Dalek View Post
    If Kevin really has that attitude, I'm kind of disapointed in him, I never thought he was that spiteful.
    I mean, he wasn't explicitly spiteful and didn't mention She-Ra by name. But when there is an ongoing coordinated campaign all over the internet by some types of people that have been very publicly and vocally denigrating Noelle's currently airing new take on She-Ra, to stage a panel going exaggeratedly hyperbolic in stressing the point that his take is going to be "true to the source" and "what the fans really wanted", can only be interpreted to mean that the other, rival, currently airing show is anything but and basically a disgrace and a wrong that he comes to undo and repair as if he were the champion and savior of MotU's "true essence". I was absolutely disgusted by his words and attitude in that panel. Not by their literality (his speech was full of nice sounding words and promises), but by their clear (even if unstated) implications in the current context as regards Noelle and her team's work.
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    It sounds he's exploitng the fan divide, for his own benefit.

    That will do more harm than good in my opinion, since it will alienate any potential new fans of MoTU who might be getting into the franchise through Netflix She-Ra. If you'le pardon my language, it sends a messege that pretty much "says **** off, we don't want you in our fandom".

    Wich is the last thing MoTU needs, given it's track record when it comes to apealing to new fans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by uaxuctum View Post
    It wouldn't work. Not only because of the incompatible canons and styles. But because it appears Kevin pitched his series precisely as a reaction against Noelle, thinking he "knows better" and making a big fanfare of stating that his take will "stay true, really true to the source", implying and painting Noelle's take as an abhorrent "heresy".

    That was the crystal clear impression I got from the presentation he did at PowerCon, from the way he phrased things and the way he behaved there. So I can't say I got the most positive impression of this guy, precisely because of that.

    He's Noelle's enemy, in a nutshell. So Noelle's offer to him sounded candidly naīve, or as if she was trying hard not to take offense and offer him the pipe of peace instead, even though she must be perfectly aware Kevin hasn't the slightest intention to even talk to her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by A Dalek View Post
    It sounds he's exploitng the fan divide, for his own benefit.

    That will do more harm than good in my opinion, since it will alienate any potential new fans of MoTU who might be getting into the franchise through Netflix She-Ra. If you'le pardon my language, it sends a messege that pretty much "says **** off, we don't want you in our fandom".

    Wich is the last thing MoTU needs, given it's track record when it comes to apealing to new fans.
    Yeah, we must embrace new fans who happen to have sexual fantasies about UNDERAGE CHARACTERS and project their degeneracy onto those who dislike the show. Just harmless shipping. #Catradora, woo!
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    I really don't know what the heck some of you guys are talking about. Some of you are definitely reading into things that aren't there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimbot View Post
    Oh, no. Let's cancel him! Who's with meeeeh?!



    Yeah, we must embrace new fans who happen to have sexual fantasies about UNDERAGE CHARACTERS and project their degeneracy onto those who dislike the show. Just harmless shipping. #Catradora, woo!
    It seems to me like you're the one who's projecting pal. Especialy since you seem generalise anyone one who likes this version of She-Ra, soely so you can dismiss them.

    Anyway my point is that MoTU as a franchise has failed misrably when it comes to conection with audiances past it's initial generation of fans. Even when it actualy had a good show like the 02 series.

    While Netflix She-Ra dosn't look like a massive sucess to me, it cleary has a decent sized fanbase among the current generation and driving them away, by being openl hostile towards them, will just ensure that franchise remanes a pnchline in the wider pop culture.
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    Quote Originally Posted by A Dalek View Post
    Anyway my point is that MoTU as a franchise has failed misrably when it comes to conection with audiances past it's initial generation of fans. Even when it actualy had a good show like the 02 series.
    It's true.
    In the end, the 200x did not do well at all, unfortunately.

    While Netflix She-Ra dosn't look like a massive sucess to me, it cleary has a decent sized fanbase among the current generation
    It definitely does. There's a nice sized fan base for the new She-Ra cartoon.


    and driving them away, by being openl hostile towards them, will just ensure that franchise remanes a pnchline in the wider pop culture.
    Not sure that will be the case. It's just a percentage of number of fans who just can't let things go, and that does more to reflect badly on all of us as fans. Why those fans can't simply not watch a show they don't like and move on to something they do enjoy is beyond me.

    But She-Ra panels do well at conventions. Even at Power-Con, the new She-Ra creators saw a large turn out of fans at Power-Con who love the new She-Ra and treated the team behind the show with respect. That's far more representative of our fan base.
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    Quote Originally Posted by A Dalek View Post
    Anyway my point is that MoTU as a franchise has failed misrably when it comes to conection with audiances past it's initial generation of fans. Even when it actualy had a good show like the 02 series.
    Well it was just tested one time and was 18 years ago in a total different world.Can't wait to see what happen with MOTU nowadays.

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    Most kids shows of today would kill for the ratings the 200X show got back then. I have a feeling that the show could be a success if it debuted on Netflix today. Toy sales also do not make or break a show like it did back then.

    I don't think these two shows would work well together due to one picking up where the original left off vs. one being totally new canon. Also, the art styles are too different (anime vs. Cal arts style).

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    Quote Originally Posted by heavy-eternium View Post
    Well it was just tested one time and was 18 years ago in a total different world.Can't wait to see what happen with MOTU nowadays.
    While I that is true, I also think that's part of the problem, Mattel more or less gave up on the idea of trying to gain a new audiance and went the safe easy route of making MoTU purely a nostalgia brand.

    I'm fairly certain the only reason Netfix She-Ra got made was because Mattel consider it a seperate brand and that's likley the reason it's conection to the MoTU franchise was downplayed.

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    Nope....Dreamworks female president found out that had production rights to She-Ra and wanted to make more female driven works, found out what characters they could use and with the Dreamworks Netflix deal of having to give Netflix 300 hours of programming slipped it in and turns out it did better than anticipated.

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    If the new DC Comic series goes well, I could see the animated worlds following suit for an episode arc or a one-off movie (a la Secret Of The Sword), some sort of multiverses merging type of scenario where Noelle's She-Ra and Kevin's He-Man intersect for an adventure of some sort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zodak74 View Post
    If the new DC Comic series goes well, I could see the animated worlds following suit for an episode arc or a one-off movie (a la Secret Of The Sword), some sort of multiverses merging type of scenario where Noelle's She-Ra and Kevin's He-Man intersect for an adventure of some sort.
    Now that would be something.
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