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    Quote Originally Posted by moltak View Post
    Yes things could be worse here, but I don't think that is likely. Not with all this awareness and closures of big events.

    Wash up, minimize physical contact, and cough/sneeze into elbow. But no panicking. Hording food/supplies unnecessary. Stressing out into a mess of anxiety also unnecessary and unproductive.
    Agreed. The closings and self-quarantining measures will help to mitigate the spread of the virus, while individual precautionary measures will help to prevent getting it.
    I especially agree about avoiding stress. Stress hormones can wreak havoc on one's immune system.
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    I live in Kansas and work in a Kansas City school district. They haven't cancelled yet. But several school systems in Missouri have canceled by means of extending spring break.

    They cancelled Planet Comicon, which was supposed to happen next week in Kansas City. Everyone was all upset about cancelled sporting events and it took a canceled comic convention to make me take notice.
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    Perspective is key here. According to the director general of WHO, Covid-19 spreads "less efficiently than flu, transmission does not appear to be driven by people who are not sick, it causes more severe illness than flu". So in short, they say that close to everyone who is confirmed to have it displays symptoms (although asymptomatic carriers can and do exist, I assume), it doesn't seem to spread as "well" as the flu, but it can cause more severe symptoms and, at least statistically speaking, it seems to be deadlier on the whole. So both good and bad stuff.

    I really do recommend keeping check on the WHO website. The daily (or every other day) briefings offered by the director general are very helpful. Not like all the doom-mongering garbage you'll find on blogs, journals or, God forbid, on social media. Straight to the point, level-headed, helpful stuff, not driven by ideological or political agendas.

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    Something to be aware of. If you're buying these things people are hoarding and leaving them in your car while you're doing errands/working, hide them. Just had to call the cops because someone was breaking into employees' cars to steal toilet paper they'd bought on break.
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    The TP hoarding is just proof to me of epidemic ignorance, bordering on insanity. It shows me how mindlessly people will jump onto a bandwagon during an emergency, even if it makes no sense at all.

    Of ALL the things people could squirrel away at a time like this, they pick a product that generally takes months to go through, and can be easily rationed even during normal times, let alone in a (hypothetical, unlikely) extreme economic depression where bowel output would be decreased in proportion to food intake.

    Canned & frozen foods, bottled water, eggs, and paper towels all make sense -- in reasonable quantities of course. But watching these freaks fill up shopping carts with TP, and even breaking into cars for it...WTH???

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    Here in Texas, our family just came back from our Spring Break trip to the Frio River, but now we find we’re actually only about halfway through our break! We’re both teachers, and both our districts shut down, though mine came through a whole day later than most. We bought what we knew we would need, but no more. I went into a couple stores last night; they’re picked over, but stocking regularly. In the meantime, lots of family time!

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    I teach at a high school and college in central Pennsylvania, and they’re all closed. My base salary will stay the same but I’ll be losing lots of grant-based money. I know that’s materialistic when people are dying, but all these closures are going to negatively affect the economy. I e already decided to cut out buying new action figures. Also, I teach a lot of IB classes, and the IB will not move their exam dates world wide, even for the studentS in Italy and China. So I have to figure out how to get my students to learn IB physics from home.
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    People in my town in Maine have been complaining that there is no toilet paper anywhere. I used the virus as an excuse to stay home and watch TV all day. Thankfully I bought toilet paper last week and have enough to last until the rest of the month. I hope it's enough because TP is like gold right now.
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    Thank you for your kind wishes, my good friend.

    Actually, we had an amazing dinner at William B's steak house at the Blue Chip Casino. Interestingly, tonight was the casino's last night open as all Indiana casinos are closing on Monday. Incredible escargots, lobster bisque, Beef Wellington for me and prime rib for Kim. The restaurant was packed. We had a great evening.

    Btw, went to our local grocery store earlier in the day. Business as usual and goodnatured joking, probably as a result of us having just three cases in Northwest Indiana. My heart goes out, along with prayers, to the residents of Washington State, Ohio and others that are hard hit.



    Quote Originally Posted by moltak View Post
    I hope there will be an open venue for you to go to. I posted a couple pics of San Antonio downtown bar district in the Tar Swamp covid thread from last night. Ghost town.

    I can’t imagine restaurant and bar owners are going to have employees show up and run a place for no customers, and to keep touching other people’s food, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heeeere's Olesker! View Post
    Thank you for your kind wishes, my good friend.

    Actually, we had an amazing dinner at William B's steak house at the Blue Chip Casino. Interestingly, tonight was the casino's last night open as all Indiana casinos are closing on Monday. Incredible escargots, lobster bisque, Beef Wellington for me and prime rib for Kim. The restaurant was packed. We had a great evening.

    Btw, went to our local grocery store earlier in the day. Business as usual and goodnatured joking, probably as a result of us having just three cases in Northwest Indiana. My heart goes out, along with prayers, to the residents of Washington State, Ohio and others that are hard hit.
    Dude! Must be ESP bc I was just thinking about you.

    I’m out in Texas right now and there is civilization here. I figured you probably had similar good luck.

    Not going to lie, I was really spooked last night when I saw the deserted ghost town. Tonight I’m regaining a little bit of optimism.

    Glad you were able to find some fun stuff to do. Happy bday to the Mrs!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heeeere's Olesker! View Post
    Thank you for your kind wishes, my good friend.

    Actually, we had an amazing dinner at William B's steak house at the Blue Chip Casino. Interestingly, tonight was the casino's last night open as all Indiana casinos are closing on Monday. Incredible escargots, lobster bisque, Beef Wellington for me and prime rib for Kim. The restaurant was packed. We had a great evening.

    Btw, went to our local grocery store earlier in the day. Business as usual and goodnatured joking, probably as a result of us having just three cases in Northwest Indiana. My heart goes out, along with prayers, to the residents of Washington State, Ohio and others that are hard hit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krueger View Post
    History has proven one thing time and time again: people are stupid.
    QFT.

    It feels so strange to be given all of this time off while still being paid. Should I be happy? Worried? Confused?

    My wife and I have continued business as usual... I have been hitting the gym a bit harder now because A: It's a good place to blow off steam and think, and B: Staying healthy in body (as well as mind) is one of the best forms of prevention, imho.

    I'm just bummed because a lot of future plans that we had have been cancelled or postponed without a new date...

    With that said, I am glad that most governing bodies are taking these preventative measures to keep everyone safe and healthy - especially children and the elderly.
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    The worlds top ranking daily death by disease is T.B. I am afraid of TB . The last time I checked our new favorite virus ranks at 16 .

    I do hate new fad apocalypse trends .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lokus View Post
    The worlds top ranking daily death by disease is T.B. I am afraid of TB . The last time I checked our new favorite virus ranks at 16 .

    I do hate new fad apocalypse trends .
    Life evolves, apparently, so does death. Let's play it safe and not let this virus climb into the top 10

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    Plus this virus is still new, still spreading, and has an asymptomatic dormancy period. Its current death toll does not represent its true threat to life or health relative to other diseases.

    It’s not a hoax and it is not a made-up concern (though it is overdramatized in the media, as usual).

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    Quote Originally Posted by moltak View Post
    Plus this virus is still new, still spreading, and has an asymptomatic dormancy period. Its current death toll does not represent its true threat to life or health relative to other diseases.

    It’s not a hoax and it is not a made-up concern (though it is overdramatized in the media, as usual).
    When this slowly evaporates, the overall death rate from Covid-19 will probably end up being a bit lower than it is now. We keep on hearing of confirmed cases, but what about the unconfirmed ones? For the majority, this causes normal cold or mild flu-like symptoms. They get over it in a matter of days. So I would imagine there are a hell of a lot more unconfirmed cases than just the confirmed ones. In the UK, whereas confirmed cases are over 1000, its been estimated that the true number may be somewhere closer to 10,000. As of now. I wholeheartedly agree that there's no room for complacency, but I also think perspective and a level-head are important. Of course, a lot of people, as usual, have gone to silly extremes.

    I really do think social media, as per usual, is showing how much of a destructive force it can be. The Swine Flu pandemic was bad; a lot of people seem to forget that. Yes, social media was well established at the time, but it was no way near the powerful force it is today. People weren't running around back then, trying to steal toilet paper from people's cars. Social media has birthed what I call the Bandwagon Mentality. We see it with many things nowadays. I think the hoarding of toilet paper and just the general panic and insanity there is out there in regards to this is just the latest entry.
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    Thank you for that, my friend. I'll pass that along to Kim.

    I'm glad you have a taste of civilization in Texas. After having spent part of my hitch as an Air Force Search & Rescue Parajumper Medic in Texas, it's my impression that Texans are an extraordinary people. As the Country song says, "God blessed Texas with His own hand, brought down angels from the promised land, gave them a place were they could dance, if you wanna see heaven, brother, here's your chance." Indeed.

    Eventually, all of this will pass.

    Quote Originally Posted by moltak View Post
    Dude! Must be ESP bc I was just thinking about you.

    I’m out in Texas right now and there is civilization here. I figured you probably had similar good luck.

    Not going to lie, I was really spooked last night when I saw the deserted ghost town. Tonight I’m regaining a little bit of optimism.

    Glad you were able to find some fun stuff to do. Happy bday to the Mrs!
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    Blue Chip!!!!. I am from Michigan City. Cool that another fan is in the same area!
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    I heard a doctor of the news this morning -- and I'm also sorry I don't recall his name, but I've been watching a lot of news lately -- say that the morbidity rate in South Korea is 1.3% and that estimates are that when all is said and done the worldwide morbidity rate will be between .03% and 1.00%. Obviously, that remains to be seen.

    Quote Originally Posted by Krueger View Post
    When this slowly evaporates, the overall death rate from Covid-19 will probably end up being a bit lower than it is now. We keep on hearing of confirmed cases, but what about the unconfirmed ones? For the majority, this causes normal cold or mild flu-like symptoms. They get over it in a matter of days. So I would imagine there are a hell of a lot more unconfirmed cases than just the confirmed ones. In the UK, whereas confirmed cases are over 1000, its been estimated that the true number may be somewhere closer to 10,000. As of now. I wholeheartedly agree that there's no room for complacency, but I also think perspective and a level-head are important. Of course, a lot of people, as usual, have gone to silly extremes.

    I really do think social media, as per usual, is showing how much of a destructive force it can be. The Swine Flu pandemic was bad; a lot of people seem to forget that. Yes, social media was well established at the time, but it was no way near the powerful force it is today. People weren't running around back then, trying to steal toilet paper from people's cars. Social media has birthed what I call the Bandwagon Mentality. We see it with many things nowadays. I think the hoarding of toilet paper and just the general panic and insanity there is out there in regards to this is just the latest entry.

    EDIT: Gosh, everyone, I'm sorry I keep top-posting. I don't know exactly what the implications of doing that are but I've been advised not to do it. Remember, I'm an old dog trying to learn new tricks. Tough enough that I'm 71 with an underlying medical condition that puts a bull's eye on my back for Coronavirus. Doing all I can to stay safe and trying to remember not to top-post at the same time.
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    What is top posting?

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    I was correctly told that when I post a response to an orger I have a tendency to place it above their original post. That's top posting. For some reason many take issue or are offended by this. The conventional wisdom is that it should go below the post I'm responding to, so that's what I try to do. As you can see, I failed with this post.

    As an aside, Kim asked one of her friends from West Virginia why West Virginia is the only state in America without a single case of Coronavirus. Her friend responded that, like most people, Coronavirus isn't aware that West Virginia is a state.

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    Chris here...

    First message on here from me in a long, long while, but just a note to my friends on here to say I hope you guys all manage to stay safe & healthy.

    Unfortunately I'm potentially in the "at risk" group as identified by the UK government as I'm an asthmatic, and also I live at home with my Mum & Dad who are in their late 60s & have diabetes / thyroid issues and stents around the heart respectively. I'm actually less freaked out about the virus than the fact that the government are reportedly going to request those of us who are most at risk to self-isolate for (brace yourselves) 16 WEEKS - in other words be completely housebound for that time, with no visitors.

    Whilst I do completely agree that the threat from the virus is very real & prevalent, I can't help feeling that this is excessive, and that the achievement of delaying these folks catching COVID-19 will be offset by the damage to their mental & physical health. Remember, that's no going for a walk, no visitors at all, no going to get your hair cut, no going out for groceries (which can be delivered, but that's not the point), just isolation. For potentially a third of a year. At this stage, if it wasn't for my parents I would rather catch the disease and have it either kill me or not so I can get on with my life - I suffer with depression & the impending sense of despair & isolation is killing me.

    I hope that everyone on here is able to keep safe & well - whether we're friends or have crossed swords in the past, nobody deserves to live in the spectre of this virus, and I wish all of you & all your families the very best for the days ahead.

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    I definitely agree with the overreaction part. It should be taken seriously because even though it's a type of flu, the flu does kill people and can kick a healthy person's backside. However, the hysteria over it like in He-fan's situation is starting to border on absurd.

    Social media is most certainly not helping. Some people are spouting out whatever garbage they hear or read without a clue what they're actually talking about. If you don't agree with them or try to counsel common sense practices and calm, then you're a horrible person who wants to kill Grandma.

    The ones really grating on me personally are those declaring that until a vaccine is created we're all in mortal danger. Uh, there's a reason they don't make vaccines for colds and that the flu shot is a crap shoot. There are thousands of strains of different viruses that cause these types of illnesses, and because they kill such a small percentage of their hosts, they 'live' long enough to mutate and render vaccines moot. You're better off practicing good hygiene and strengthening your immune system with nutrient-rich food, exercise, and rest.

    Well there's the toilet paper thing too, but that's not just me.

    Wishing everyone here, and their loved ones, that they get through this madness relatively unscathed.
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    I hope everyone is staying safe. New York City schools are officially closed until at least April 20th.

    Bars and restaurants in NYC have also been shut down.

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    Same in Chicago, schools closed, bars and restaurants aren't allowed dine in eating, everything is take out, drive through, or delivery.

    Please take precautions, and try to reduce your exposure by staying away from crowded areas. Wash hands frequently, stop touching yourself (my mom drilled that into my head at a young age) and be mindful of those who need help, like the elderly.

    I'm already dealing with people who think this is a hoax and a "manufactured" crisis. People may be overreacting with the toilet paper and supplies, but this is a serious issue that can be reduced in severity.

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    With both Hayley and I being teachers, we’re really quite fortunate in that we don’t have to report for duty (at least this week, though it seems to be shaping up that it could be considerably longer) and will not have to worry about child care for Hermione.

    Her eighth birthday is next Monday, and we’ve moved her (small) party from a public trampoline park to our home, though we may call of the gathering in its entirety if need be. (It’s only close family coming, but if there seems to be risk, it’s a no-go.) Instead, we ordered her a trampoline off her own and my dad and I set it up in the backyard last night, so she can use it all week. Hayley and I, while awaiting word from our respective districts on how we’ll move forward, will be following a loose schedule while we’re all home to keep Hermione engaged physically, mentally, and emotionally. She was stressing about this situation at first, so we’ve been careful not to worry her, even as we fret over so many unknowns. There’ll be lots of reading, some homemade homework, lots of walls and trampoline jumping, plenty of play in the Toy Room, and very little going anywhere. We mightPaint the living room. E will complete of jobs around the house we have been meaning to get to. We still have several MOTUC figures e never opened, including the movie wave, last year’s PC exclusives, and even the 200X Evilseed! I’ve really gotten a kick out of action figure photography, so Hermione and I might have some field trips into the wooded areas nearby for some shoots.

    Hayley’s district is set to have a love FB update on the situation this evening. My district, a rather poor one at that, has not made any official comments on how we n might handle remote learning. Texas legislators are pushing to put the kibosh on the state tests (STAAR), which would be a great idea. (My Tran was supposed to meet today to discuss intervention classes for retesters.) I worry about my students; I truly love my nutty high schoolers, and many are poor, at risk, and lack the resources we would likely need to successfully implement any remote learning strategies.

    It’s a Strange Time. We’re taking all precautions, following trusted, vetted news sources, taking care of one another, and maintaining positivity, but there is so much we don’t know about our work situations. I know our family will be alright, but as teachers, e we spend so much time caring for, worrying about, and really loving other people’s kids; now, we are cut off from our work, and unsure of how to be THERE for our students when we’re asked to stay HERE.

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    I heard that my whole country going to shut down tonight, or tomorrow. I for one hate to live in a bunker-like situation.

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