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    King Tamusk and King Tarbin

    Are King Tamusk and King Tarbin related to King Randor and King Miro? Are they all related to King Grayskull?

    He-Man and the Masters of the Universe - Season 2 - Episode 32: The Time Wheel (King Tamusk) - Thousands of years older than He-Man



    She-Ra: Princess of Power - Season 1 - Episode 61: Darksmoke and Fire (King Tarbin) - 1000 years older than She-Ra

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    Well, if you go by Filmation research, there is no King Grayskull.
    And the episode nor script make any reference that Tamusk is related to Miro/Randor either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jukka View Post
    Well, if you go by Filmation research, there is no King Grayskull.
    And the episode nor script make any reference that Tamusk is related to Miro/Randor either.
    Okay, forget King Grayskull. I don't know why I brought him up.

    King Tamusk and King Tarbin have to be related to King Randor and King Miro, obviously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DynastyMasters View Post
    King Tamusk and King Tarbin have to be related to King Randor and King Miro, obviously.
    But then why is it not mentioned or even hinted at in the episode?

    The writer makes a point of for example Tamusk changing his ways, and the legacy. But never draws any lineage to Randor?

    It would have made a bigger point on the situations when a modern day King like Randor IS compared to the ancient ruling counterpart. And that could’ve been excellent point also for Randor in his talk to Adam on how a King acts, especially blood related. Don’t see anything stopping the writer of addressing it, if that was intended case…
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jukka View Post
    But then why is it not mentioned or even hinted at in the episode?

    The writer makes a point of for example Tamusk changing his ways, and the legacy. But never draws any lineage to Randor?

    It would have made a bigger point on the situations when a modern day King like Randor IS compared to the ancient ruling counterpart. And that could’ve been excellent point also for Randor in his talk to Adam on how a King acts, especially blood related. Don’t see anything stopping the writer of addressing it, if that was intended case…
    Well, if King Tamusk lived in the same palace as King Randor, as the episode shows, then Tamusk would have to be Randor's great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great grandfather. Are there any examples in real life where the monarchy is not passed down to blood relatives?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DynastyMasters View Post
    Are there any examples in real life where the monarchy is not passed down to blood relatives?
    Off the top of my head, for the English monarchy, William I wasn't related to Harold II by blood. Henry II was only very distantly related to his predecessor, Stephen (though that was the restitution of a line that Stephen usurped). Henry VII had an extremely dodgy claim to royal blood, being descended from Edward III about six generations back.

    I expect there are plenty of other examples...
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    The Silkons - Ancient Silkon laboratory

    The Silkon civilization existed thousands of years ago. King Tamusk was the last of Eternia's sorcerer kings, and the Silkons were his bitterest enemies, always warring upon his palace and territory.

    There might be a continuity issue here...

    In Darksmoke and Fire, Adora goes through a portal to visit her family on Eternia. Hordak's rocket enters the portal as well and causes Adora to be transported to Eternia's past. Adora climbs up Kings Hill, and the Royal Palace is not there. This suggests that King Tarbin is older than King Tamusk, but in The Time Wheel, He-Man states that King Tamusk lived thousands of years ago. The Royal Palace of Eternia existed during King Tamusk's time. When She-Ra sees Granamyr he tells her that she is in the Eternia of 1000 years before her time, but why then does the Royal Palace of Eternia not exist, if Tamusk came before Tarbin, and the palace existed during Tamusk's reign? Filmation was not keeping track of these things.

    King Tamusk - thousands of years ago - The Royal Palace of Eternia existed.

    King Tarbin - one thousand years ago - The Royal Palace of Eternia did not exist.

    King Tamusk wore a crown on his head, and King Tarbin did not.

    King Tamusk was a sorcerer King, and King Tarbin was not.

    Although, King Tarbin was not called the King of Eternia. She-Ra's reaction when one of Tarbin's men calls him King suggests that she thinks she's in the presence of one of her ancestors, or that is what we are made to believe.

    After She-Ra returns home through a portal, Granamyr gives King Tarbin a crystal that allows him to see how She-Ra is doing from time to time. Maybe King Tarbin now knows that She-Ra is the alter-ego of Princess Adora, and he figured out they might be related.

    VERDICT

    King Tarbin is actually older than King Tamusk.

    What do you think about King Tarbin? Was he the King of all of Eternia, or just the King of a specific part of Eternia and its people? I think King Tarbin and She-Ra are related.

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    I think King Tamusk and King Tarbin should have also been included in Preternia (as an homage to the original series') among all the others that Prince Adam met while he was there.
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