He's from The Curse of the Three Terrors cartoon that Super7 made in Filmation style.Originally Posted by Darkkosis
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He's from The Curse of the Three Terrors cartoon that Super7 made in Filmation style.
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Ohh, so I was totally talking about something entirely different! LOL
If you guys are talking about those 3 Terrors from the animated flick, I think the chances seeing these guys in Origins are very very slim.
Last edited by Darkkosis; March 18, 2023 at 08:23pm.
Creativity is addictive.
What makes you say that? They're just what Origins needs/likes to do. Three figures with the same body, one figure that could use an existing Skeletor head and repaint potential for all four as glow in the dark versions. Possibly to make Wrap-Trap too.
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I don't know, anything to do with Filmation or related cartoons that were produced by other companies is always iffy, whether its licensing issues or IP shenanigans... I'm just saying.
Mattel always find their excuses and reasons somehow.
Creativity is addictive.
But they like MONEY and see the money train leaving and they want on board...
Again, it depends on how much they're willing to spend before getting things sorted out and ready for production, ala IP/Licensing fees, lawyers and what have you.
If they have all those things already covered, then yeah, why not... If they have nothing ready, they might just let that train go or see it derail for all they care...
Creativity is addictive.
Terroar is prominently shown as the villain battling Hypno on Hypno's card art, and Lord Gr'Asp is the villain battling Slamurai on Slamurai's card art, and both were shown on Camo Khan's fold out comic. They're definitely coming.
Even Strobo has been shown! It seems Mattel is keen to make the missing 1988 wave.
Slamurai's and Horde Snake Trooper's card art are recreations of their concept artwork. However Terroar and Gr'Asp were in the list of leaks with Gr'Asp being an MC exclusive.
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It would be fun if Mattel made Strobo before SyKlone. Anyway Strobo is about recycling Syklone so I think both are definetely coming.
About Plasmar, if he was made it would mean that He-Ro is conibg too, rt?
He-Ro and more importantly Rio Blast.
I didnt know Plasmar had Rio Blast parts too. Cool. Any other figure that shares parts with Plasmar?
According to battram blog he's got Fisto's head, Sssqueeze's legs and Grizzlor's bow.
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If they do reuse Fisto's head. I hope they fix the missing sideburn.
You mean his scar?
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Last edited by Smitty.81; March 19, 2023 at 02:02pm.
BOOM - that is the essence of what I was getting at, not to mention these ARE targeted at kids still, not for collectors simply displaying them on the shelf. These are tough, durable figures that will last long time and will easily enjoy extended play. There is something to be said for that.
Except it's not exactly - we DID get those features on figures. Blood pumping action on Mosquitor, Clawful's pincher, Thunder Punch He-Man snap and waist punch, Buzzsaw Hordak's chest launcher, Roboto's gear mechanisms and jaw bill flapping, Webstor's climbing backpack, etc. If the line were only dedicated to interchangeability (which is a misstep in the first place), none of those features would exist - and it would be an extremely boring line. Their "play pattern" as you called it is probably only even used by a small percentage of people, most of us are simply buying it for the new version of the figure itself. I'm not taking HE-MAN's arms and putting them on Stratos...
I respect yours as well, and obviously the adults are being considered in this line's designs and marketing, but so are kids, so the features should have never left. We have still gotten 90% of the articulation given to any figure regardless of leaving in the feature. Even in Rattlor's case, we could have kept the chest popping neck feature and still swapped out He-Man's head. Don't know why anyone would feel the need to do that outside of a funny joke pic or gimmick, but it could have been done easily.
As for tooling costs, I can't think of another line that saves so much in tooling by major reuse of parts, except like Real Ghostbusters for the humans. Mattel has little ground to stand on there, they are responsible for pushing the envelope of new tech and tooling, not regressing it. This is why I call it lazy and only thinking about the bottom line instead of spending a few bucks more, which ironically would certainly have made the a few bucks more. Imagine people getting the articulation AND the action feature? It's win win and clearly why a figure like Mosquitor was so popular.
Not what I meant at all, I'm 100% an opener and displayer, my comment was meant to read like this that more people are buying an Origins figure for the actual character on the card and not some imaginative amalgamation of parts. I know these figures certainly are fun for customizers, especially sharing the bucks and designs with WWE mashups, but I don't think that should mean that the interchangeability should trump the character's themselves and forsake the features that MAKE them the character. I hope that clears up what I meant, and I totally agree with your comment btw.
The more I look at this Dragon Blaster Skeletor the more I think it's fake. It's look like Origins Skeletor with Classics armor and dragon, with added dragon head from vintage (it appears to have neck that Origins toys don't have and scraped paint at teeth a bit), one spit seems to come from Origins Kobra Khan and other one is from Mega Construx. So there is hope that they wont give actual Deluxe with completely broken gimmick.
You think it could be something Skeletor-themed? We have plenty of Skeletor related toy to release - Snake Mountain, He-Skeletor, Skeleton Warriors, New Adventures Skeletor...Many fans would like Origins Skeletor 4-Pack or Masteverse 40th anniversary Skeletor single release.
That would be interesting, if they did special release like that for every vintage toy that wasn't teased in that one leak. Maybe something like this.
Wave 1 - Laser Power He-Man, Rio Blast, Dragstor, Blade
Wave 2 - Laser Light Skeletor, Rotar, Blast-Attak, Multi-Bot
Wave 3 - Hurricane Hordak, Gwildor, Saurod, Twistoid
Either way, I'm happy for some announcements, it feels like we've been just going on leaks for a while now.
Ancient question, if giants count as creatures or figures. I think general consensus is that Battle Cat, Mantisaur, Montroid or Zoar are creatures but Modulok, Multi-Bot are figures but giants are a question.
I'll definitely agree with most of this. I guess I would like Tytus and Megator too and I think if Shadow Weaver and others were made then Imp would deserve toy too. I'd also add both Catra and Entrapta, it would be odd to have all those Horde members without her. I think I would prioritize Bow and Glimmer over Swift Wind. Of course, it would be great if we got the whole Pop line and Sea Hawk and Madame Razz & Broom and Star Sisters...but I'm just dreaming here.
Cant really think of much other important characters to do. I guess if they do Snake Man-At-Arms as leak suggests, Snake Mekaneck to wrap up the team would be nice. Reptilax would make a fun figure and finish off Demonic Snakes from Camo Khan comic. IDK maybe Queen Marlena?
By and large, action features seem to be a function of budget, as does more unique tooling.
That doesn't mean basic figures NEVER get them. But only deluxe figures ALWAYS get them.
I feel to satisfy more of the hardcore older collectors, Mattel would need to condense this line down to ONLY deluxes.
I also suspect that's not terribly viable as a retail strategy. Retailers in general seem a lot more reluctant about deluxes and they clearance cheaper than regular releases. I don't entirely get that. I'd get if they discounted down to regular assortment prices but deluxes clearly have to be sold for $10 a piece or shipped off to Big Lots.
That may not be the fault of the action features. It's probably partly that deluxes come in smaller assortment cases.
Maybe you could eliminate the regular assortment and do deluxes as 6 figure assortment cases. That would probably solve the pegwarming with both sizes since there'd be no more than 3 of any figure at a fully stocked store.
EDIT: And personally, I hated the action features as a kid and wanted articulation. That was what turned me into a G.I. Joe fan at 6. And I think play patterns for kids and adults in 2023 are more about being able to post cool photography to Instagram than squirting water. Water squirting and necks that don't stay extended aren't an Instagram play pattern. But I'm not professing to be the only valid opinion here.
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Did Snout Spout sell well? If not I could imagine Mattel cutting down on spraying toys.
Snout Spout and Leech suffered the same fate as wave 7. The were over ordered and possibly over produced in an over correction of the shipping problems post-COVID.
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I'm not sure how well Snouty sold, but he is one of the biggest reasons I get frustrated with Mattel...
I'm almost positive that Dragon Blaster Skeletor will be a deluxe figure, so giving him a gangly hunk of plastic as a "blast effect" seems an odd choice when his Dragon 'backpack' could easily function as a reservoir for water... not dissimilar from Snout Spout.
I get the articulation over gimmick argument... but, with Origins, I think that the gimmicks would make these figures more appealing to kids.
Heck, some of the vintage figures were created around a gimmick... Rotar and Twistoid, anyone? Yet, when they were Classicized™, they just looked awkward.
Play-features like rip-cords, sparks, spray, cap-blasts, springs, etc. have been proven to move units. When the TMNT line was introduced, Playmates immediately realized this when they started adding every gimmick possible to their figures.
I was a huge sucker for these gimmicks as a kid... this is why I got figures like Dragstor, Mosquitor, Kobra Khan, etc. instead of choosing a more recognizable character.
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I think kids are more likely to be into toy photography and Youtube channels as their play patterns. Or game-like mechanics with downloadable content, augmented reality, QR codes.
Slime and GITD work well enough for that. They photograph and can be posed out. Action features not so much.
The people I see with the emotional investment in action features are late 30s/40 somethings.
But I could be wrong.
I'm in thar age range but I'm not that into gimmicks. Some of the shooting and squirting wear off quickly.
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I hear some of that, but kids are not on Instagram - that's for teens and dipping into middle schoolers, but not the toy-age demographic. What you explain simply sounds apologetic for a company that easily and successfully produced all those action figures 40 years ago without any issue. The tech has only gotten cheaper, yet I get the articulation plays a key in cost for all these figures - but that is built into OUR cost for the price of a regular figure. None of us have the bottom line figures, but I truly fear that a lot of predatory practices and corporate rhetoric are used to convince the consumers of exactly what you are selling - that the only way to get an action figure is to pay $5 more. I really don't believe that is the case, but it's Mattel's way of ensuring more sales by making them rarer and more novel, only releasing 2-3 at a time.
Hasbro has taken to do the same thing with the Vintage Collection Deluxe figures, except it's around $7-8 more on average and getting less for your money, especially in regards to plastic. They also have the Lucasfilm tax to contend with, but Mattel uses more plastic per figure and charge less, so I really can't imagine that they aren't making out handsomely with this line. Like I said though, none of us have the hard number and it's all speculation.
Totally agreed on the features, though all my He-Man figures were purchased for me and not by me, so I ended up really falling in the love with the features after the fact. I was too young to be discerning much in my toys, but for lines like Real Ghostbusters or TMNT, I was definitely aiming for the fun action features.
Oh don't worry I already am going to make my Origins Kobra Khan shoot water...I already have the doner figure..I don't get why you DO Snout Spout but don't do Kobra Khan & Dragon Blaster Skeletor...
I can keep Khan pull apart ability and STILL Spray water like HE should...It's a simple fix Mattel once again could not be bothered with....
So far no signs of Snout Spout in Europe.
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