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    MOTU Origins: Master list and speculation of each wave

    Hi there Origins collectors, I thought it'd be fun to dedicate a new thread where we can update a master list for each official wave of the Origins line (in chronological order) and also waste time sharing our predictions for upcoming waves in 2023 and onwards...

    Note: I'll use this first post to make the master list but in the meantime please feel free to speculate what you think we're likely to see in 2023? Also, please let me know if there are any errors!

    PRE-WAVE EXCLUSIVES

    Prince Adam and He-Man 2 Pack (2019 SDCC Comic-Con Exclusive)

    He-Man, Man-At-Arms, Skeletor, Beast Man, Mer-Man - Lords of Power 5 Pack (2020 Power-Con Exclusive) (November 2020)

    She-Ra (35th Anniversary) (2020 Power-Con Exclusive)


    WAVE 1 (2020)

    He-Man
    Skeletor
    Teela
    Evil-Lyn
    Man-at-Arms
    Beastman

    Battle Cat
    Sky Sled with Prince Adam

    WAVE 2 (2020)

    Scareglow
    Trapjaw
    Orko
    Man-E-Faces

    WAVE 3 (2020)

    She-Ra
    Merman
    Roboto
    Zodac

    Battle Armor He-Man
    Battle Armor Skeletor

    Panthor (Unflocked)
    Castle Grayskull with Temple of Darkness Sorceress

    EXCLUSIVE
    Skeletor (Art of Engineering) - Mattel Creations Exclusive

    WAVE 4 (2020)

    Stratos
    Hordak
    Triklops
    Ninjor

    Clamp Champ
    Ram Man

    Panthor (Flocked) (Walmart Exclusive)
    Landshark

    WAVE 5 (2021)

    Faker
    Evil-Lyn (200X Recolor)
    Merman (Lords of Power single carded)
    Fisto
    He-Man (Re-issue with vintage head)
    Skeletor (Re-issue with vintage head)

    Buzz Saw Hordak

    Keldor and Kronis (Rise of Evil 2 Pack) (Target Exclusive)

    Wind Raider

    WAVE 6 (2021)

    Stinkor
    Beastman (Lords of Power single carded)
    Webstor
    Eternian Goddess

    Mosquitor

    Eternian Palace Guard

    Battle Armor He-Man with Battle Cat - Battlefield Warriors (2 Pack) (Target Exclusive)

    EXCLUSIVE(S) (August/September 2021)

    Hordak (Filmation), Grizzlor (dark variant), Crimson Horde Trooper, Shadow Horde Trooper - Evil Horde Multi 4 Pack - Power-Con/ BBTS/ Mattel Creations Excusive August/September 2021

    Faker and Dupli-Cat - Maniacal Mimics 2 Pack - Power-Con Excusive August 2021/ Mattel Creations Exclusive September 2021

    Secrets of Grayskull Accessory Pack (includes castleís humanoid robot, 3D dungeon grate with tentacle, and the Spirit of Castle Grayskull) - Power-Con Excusive August 2021/ Mattel Creations Exclusive September 2021)

    Tri-Klops (Mini Comic) - Mattel Creations Exclusive September 2021

    Sun-Man (RoS) - Mattel Creations Exclusive September 2021

    WAVE 7 (2022)

    Sorceress
    Jitsu
    Buzz-Off
    Stratos (Mini Comic)

    Flying Fist He-Man
    Terror Claw Skeletor

    Stridor

    WAVE 8 (2022)

    Sun-Man (RoS)
    Anti-Eternia He-Man
    Clawful
    Horde Trooper

    EXCLUSIVE
    Kol-Darr - Mattel Creations Exclusive

    WAVE 9 (2022)

    He-Man (200X)
    Skeletor (200X)
    Mantenna
    Pighead (RoS)

    Snout Spout
    Leech

    Roton

    EXCLUSIVE
    Wun-Dar - Mattel Creations Exclusive

    WAVE 10 (2022)

    Whiplash
    Digitino (RoS)
    Trap Jaw (Mini Comic)
    King Randor

    Sun-Man, Pig Head, Space Sumo - Rulers of the Sun 3 Pack (Target Exclusive)

    Teela (200X) with Zoar 2 Pack

    EXCLUSIVE
    Grizzlor - Mattel Creations Exclusive
    He-Man - Origins 40th Anniversary 4 Pack - Mattel Creations Exclusive
    Wun-Dar - Mattel Creations Exclusive (re-release)

    WAVE 11 (Late October 2022 (New for 23)

    Snake Armour He-Man
    Cobra Khan
    Rattlor
    Bolt (RoS)

    King Hiss
    Thunder Punch He-Man

    Mekanek and Ground Ripper 2 Pack

    EXCLUSIVE

    Camo Cobra Khan - Mattel Creations Exclusive

    WAVE 12 (January 2023)

    Snake Armour Skeletor
    Tung Lashor
    Hypno




    EXCLUSIVES / Upcoming for 2023/2024

    Frog Monger (Spring 2023) - Mattel Creations Exclusive
    He-Skeletor (Spring 2023) - Mattel Creations Exclusive
    Moss Man (Flocked) (Fall 2023) - Walmart Exclusive

    Snake Mountain Playset (Fall 2023)

    Eternia Playset (Ships approx 29 March 2024) - Mattel Creations Exclusive with King Grayskull and Moat monster.

    Undisclosed wave (June 2023)

    Snake Teela (not confirmed)
    Spikor (not confirmed)
    Snake Horde Trooper (not confirmed)
    Eternian Guard Infiltrated (not confirmed)
    King Randor (200X)

    Sssqueeze (not confirmed)
    Serpent Claw Man-at-Arms (not confirmed)



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    I think we'll see the remaining vintage characters stretched out for the next two years though that could be put sharply into context with how fast the Snakemen are arriving! Still, there's any amount of 200X re-dos to potentially be had, a Night Stalker repaint (though Stridor shelf warmed HARD), the art we've seen suggests we're getting the Powers of Grayskull lot, and so on. The only real question for me is will Mattel wind their neck in on the unnecessary Creations exclusivity problems.

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    Well, from SDCC we have a reasonable idea of what comes after those announced waves and presumably sometime in 2023

    - Mekaneck + Roadripper
    - Rattlor
    - Kobra Khan
    - King Hiss
    - Tung Lashor
    - Grizzlor (MC exclusive)

    After that (i.e. late 2023/2024), I assume we will see:

    - King Grayskull (MC exclusive /w Eternia)
    - Eternia playset
    - GUESS: Moss-man (MC exclusive)
    - GUESS: Nightstalker (tooling is done, would be silly not to use it)

    What I would *love* to see before this line ends:

    - Dragonwalker
    - Dragonhead Skeletor
    - Laserpower He-man/Skeletor
    - Fright Zone playset

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    Any time I make predictions, I'm always proven wrong

    But what the hell.
    In 2023, two guys I am 100% confident in are He-Ro and Zodak. They're the two guys that were specifically "snake fighters" and hated King Hiss' guts. If next year is all-snake, they'd be pretty foolish to not include them.
    Also, in his interview with Pixel Dan, Graham implied more than one of those boxart guys were coming besides the Skeletons. Safest bets are the frog and gladiator from wind raider box because of their obvious part reuse, and the cyclops because he was on the Grayskull box and the Wun-Dar comic with the aforementioned Skeletons.
    They haven't revealed any vintage heroic warriors for 2023 besides Mekaneck, either. I figure we should at least get 1 or 2, so again I'll go with safe bets: Moss Man, Sy-klone and Extendar were all teased, so I'd expect them.
    I expect a Snake Mountain reveal for next year, but do NOT expect Eternia. I don't know how long crowd funded stuff takes off hand, but I'm gonna guess it'll be a drawn out process and the actual set won't ship until sometime in 2024.

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    Prediction for end of year and some of 2023:

    Camo Khan - MC Exclusive
    Grizzlor - MC Exclusive

    He-Man Origins 4 Pack - MC Exclusive

    2023

    He-Man 200X Snake Armour
    Kobra Khan
    Rattlor
    Bolt

    King Hiss Deluxe
    Thunder Punch He Man Deluxe

    Mekanek and Roadripper 2 Pack

    Moss Man - MC Exclusive
    Cyclops beast (Wun-Dar villain) - MC Exclusive
    Sharella - MC Exclusive
    Wun-Dar - MC Exclusive re-release with something different

    Tung Lashor
    Skeletor 200X Snake Armour
    Brand new Snake man!
    Hypnos

    Sssqueeze Deluxe
    Extendar Deluxe
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    Latest card art teases:

    Snake Face
    Sssqueeze
    Terroar
    Lord Gr'Asp
    Reptilax
    Lady Slither
    King Hiss's Slave Girl
    Snake Troopers
    Laser Light Skeletor
    Laser Power He-Man
    He-Ro
    Eldor
    Megator
    Tytus
    Sharella
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    Quote Originally Posted by Durendal View Post
    Latest card art teases:

    Snake Face
    Sssqueeze
    Terroar
    Lord Gr'Asp
    Reptilax
    Lady Slither
    King Hiss's Slave Girl
    Laser Light Skeletor
    Laser Power He-Man
    He-Ro
    Eldor
    Megator
    Tytus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smitty.81 View Post
    Art from exclusives does not count.
    Why doesn't it? Seems like an arbitrary distinction

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smitty.81 View Post
    Art from exclusives does not count.
    ...it's official art work.

    What fact is your statement based upon?

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    I think he's referencing the fact that we haven't gotten much from the art for the origins She-Ra exclusive - Bow, Glimmer, Catra, Kowl, Loo-Kee, Arrow, Clawdeen, Swiftwind, etc.

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    MOTU Origins: Master list and speculation of each wave

    I would hope weíll get Moss Man, Sy-Klone, and Two-Bad next year. Itís annoying that the latter is in Masterverse first. Once Iíve got Hiss, KK, Mekaneck, Moss Man, SK, and Two-Bad, Iíll be done. I want Randor but Iíll be fine if I canít get him. I also wanted at least one Horde Trooper but have yet to see them in my area. The only other want I have was an initial prediction for 2023 that I now donít think will happen: Point Dread and the Talon Fighter. If the line continues beyond next year, it might be an exclusive but I doubt it. I think Eternia and the Snake Men are the grand finale of this line, not counting a few new reveals at Power Con. No more mounts or vehicles besides the Road Ripper.


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    I think there's a good chance that Point Dread will be a vehicle/playset for 2023. Castle Grayskull isn't complete without Point Dread IMO. Also think Mantisaur will be made available.

    Along with a few people who've already mentioned it, I think the Eternia playset will take around a year to manufacture/ distribute and could see it in hand in early 2024.

    Extra note: I do think Zombie He-Man will be an exclusive with the Slime Pit and that will be a playset in 2023 too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Durendal View Post
    ...it's official art work.

    What fact is your statement based upon?
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    I mean, I don't see people expecting that Shadow Master is coming due to Kol-Darr.

    I'd expect that they put She-Ra characters because it was She-Ra anniversary. The art even mimicked the art of POP. It wouldn't be thesame if they used that space to tease Ninjor or Fisto.

    Side note, it feel weird seeing Ram Man listed separately from Clamp Champ and Battle Armors when they clearly were meant to be one release.

    I'd expect Holographo to be released before Hypno since he was actual vintage Ruler of the Sun and not unreleased.


    Point Dread & Talon Fighter are easily the most iconic vehicle missing. Some other popular ones - Spydor, Attak Trak, Dragon Walker - I assume will be skipped due to being battery powered. So aside from easy repaints of Screeech and Night Stalker, the only potental vehicles to be are also Bashasaurus, Mantisaur or Monstroid. Dinosaurs would be great but I'm not holding my breath.

    Quote Originally Posted by Val-Or View Post
    I think Eternia and the Snake Men are the grand finale of this line, not counting a few new reveals at Power Con.

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    You think it will die before they finish vintage?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bear View Post
    I mean, I don't see people expecting that Shadow Master is coming due to Kol-Darr.

    I'd expect that they put She-Ra characters because it was She-Ra anniversary. The art even mimicked the art of POP. It wouldn't be thesame if they used that space to tease Ninjor or Fisto.

    Side note, it feel weird seeing Ram Man listed separately from Clamp Champ and Battle Armors when they clearly were meant to be one release.

    I'd expect Holographo to be released before Hypno since he was actual vintage Ruler of the Sun and not unreleased.


    Point Dread & Talon Fighter are easily the most iconic vehicle missing. Some other popular ones - Spydor, Attak Trak, Dragon Walker - I assume will be skipped due to being battery powered. So aside from easy repaints of Screeech and Night Stalker, the only potental vehicles to be are also Bashasaurus, Mantisaur or Monstroid. Dinosaurs would be great but I'm not holding my breath.



    You think it will die before they finish vintage?
    I'm expecting the simpler vintage vehicles are no brainers, possibly with included figures. So Nightstalker, Bashasauras, Laser Bolt, Talon Fighter, Manty, Jet Sled, the triceratops I'm forgetting the name of...

    There's no way this line is ending yet based on upcoming figures, registered trademarks, package art, '2023 and beyond', Eternia and whatever else. People need to get over that irrational fear, they really do. There's more signs the line is in rude health than anything else!

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    Am I correct to understand that previous wave figures wont be produced again and it will be tough luck finding them at retail, if I missed out?
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    Quote Originally Posted by anonymousmoose View Post
    Am I correct to understand that previous wave figures wont be produced again and it will be tough luck finding them at retail if I missed out?
    Mattel is re-releasing certain waves again. Some of the earlier ones will be made available in November this year. Have a look at Big Bad Toy store and Entertainment Earth (EE has more expensive international shipping).

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    Quote Originally Posted by anonymousmoose View Post
    Am I correct to understand that previous wave figures wont be produced again and it will be tough luck finding them at retail if I missed out?
    Pretty much, once a wave is gone, its gone.

    Having said that I do believe they are doing a re-release of Wave 3 (She-Ra, Roboto, Mer Man, Zodac) and pre-orders are still up on a lot of the bigger websites like BigBadToyStore.

    EDIT: Also looks like wave 5 is up for another run as well (Faker, Fisto, 200xEvil Lyn, LOP Mer Man)
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    I updated the master list to include Wave 11 seeing that the figures have been shown on social media by Mattel employees and the Mattel Creations announcements.

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    Wasn't officially said but I'd say 80% yes.

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    MOTU Origins: Master list and speculation of each wave

    I like king hiss. One I'll get for sure if available. Had no idea what he was as a kid. No internet then and didn't see the comic or episode he would have been in. He was just some cool snake monster-man.

    We would have picked a lot of my he-man figures up from garage sales and swap meets back then. Those were the days. Loved the 80s


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    Isn't the "standard" (orange) Beast Man missing from the Wave One listing in the first post??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snake_Man View Post
    Isn't the "standard" (orange) Beast Man missing from the Wave One listing in the first post??
    Yes you are correct...he was definitely a part of Wave one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snake_Man View Post
    Isn't the "standard" (orange) Beast Man missing from the Wave One listing in the first post??
    Oops! Fixed that! Thanks for spotting it and letting me know

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