MOTU Origins: Master list and speculation of each wave

[MCX-Eternia]

If they made 2024 all about Horde AND PoP, from a marketing point of view, that'd be a good way to sell the Octavia and Dylamug featured on the Horde Powercon box at retail.
"Hey, remember those two minor villains from the PoP cartoon? Did you know they were based on concept art from the Masters of the Universe toyline? Well, now to celebrate both the MotU toyline and the 40th anniversary of She-Ra, these concept designs will make their first appearance in toy form"

Villains for 2024: deluxe Hurricane Hordak, Laser Light Skeletor
Catra, Octavia, Dylamug, Dragstor, Shadow Weaver, Entrapta
$33 (or whatever) Multi-Bot, Mantisaur

[Dylamug]

Villains for 2024: deluxe Hurricane Hordak, Laser Light Skeletor
Catra, Octavia, Dylamug, Dragstor, Shadow Weaver, Entrapta
$33 (or whatever) Multi-Bot, Mantisaur

Leaving out Modulok? I thought you loved him
I'd kind of want to see Wrap Trap get a nod during a Horde year, too.

[MCX-Eternia]

Leaving out Modulok? I thought you loved him
I'd kind of want to see Wrap Trap get a nod during a Horde year, too.

Oh, I'm still hoping Modulok takes up a slot at the vehicle/robot horse price point in 2023! If not, then yeah, of course put him in that year before Multi-Bot.

[Orko's Magic Hat]

The Snakes ARE 2023. The Whiplash/Randor wave will be the last one before Christmas, Wave 11 the first of 2023, and these Snaky Mexican leaks are for summer 2023. If Dylamug is correct that two of them are deluxe, then we can expect one more unrevealed basic wave in 2023, which still needs to include Snake Men to wrap up this small faction.

Yeah I meant 2023

[Lich Leech]

If they give Snake Man-At-Arms the armor from the Power-Con Lords of Power set, I'll probably pick one up. If not, I'll probably pass.

[Bear]

So last Wave would be Snake Face, perhaps with Terroar and Lord Gr'Asp?

[Smitty.81]

Am I the only one that wants to see the three terrors and Possessed Skeletor?

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[Ultimate Sorceress]

Am I the only one that wants to see the three terrors and Possessed Skeletor?

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Possessed Skeletor is OK but the Three Terrors are not a priority. I collected all of the Super 7 except for the Three Terrors. It felt like Super 7 was scraping the barrel with those.

[Smitty.81]

Possessed Skeletor is OK but the Three Terrors are not a priority. I collected all of the Super 7 except for the Three Terrors. It felt like Super 7 was scraping the barrel with those.

Didn't they come up with those characters and the story behind them and Possessed Skeletor that got made into a cartoon?

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[depp76]

Possessed Skeletor is OK but the Three Terrors are not a priority. I collected all of the Super 7 except for the Three Terrors. It felt like Super 7 was scraping the barrel with those.

Yeah I have all the Super7 figures as well but just wasn't intrigued enough by those four figures to actually buy them. And I don't feel like I'm missing anything by not having them.

[anytimepally]

Didn't they come up with those characters and the story behind them and Possessed Skeletor that got made into a cartoon?

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Yeah, they did a 10 minute cartoon. Even had Alan Oppenheimer.

[Glasstor]

Yeah, they did a 10 minute cartoon. Even had Alan Oppenheimer.

Ok, I just watched the cartoon. I’m confused…so they made a new “filmation” episode so they could make some new toys? It feels like the whole thing a sorta art project in itself from cartoon to the figures. Weird. I kinda want more of King Helltor, though(and where’s his figure?).

Was that a Kolian in the rainbow-Etheria-looking forest?

What was up with Adam’s voice at the end? Yikes!

And, wow! Those Terrors figures go for a pretty penny.

[anonymousmoose]

Ok, I just watched the cartoon. I’m confused…so they made a new “filmation” episode so they could make some new toys? It feels like the whole thing a sorta art project in itself from cartoon to the figures. Weird. I kinda want more of King Helltor, though(and where’s his figure?).

Was that a Kolian in the rainbow-Etheria-looking forest?

What was up with Adam’s voice at the end? Yikes!

And, wow! Those Terrors figures go for a pretty penny.

Other way around. They made the toys and then the cartoon to sell them to Toys r US.

The toy creators actually admitted they just put a bunch of 'bull****' (quote) together and how much fun they had.

It makes He-Man even more fantastic for me. Fact it is was such a popular toy even before there was a story.

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Maybe it's because I loved these in the 80e as a boy is why I like them so much now.

[anytimepally]

Other way around. They made the toys and then the cartoon to sell them to Toys r US.

The toy creators actually admitted they just put a bunch of 'bull****' (quote) together and how much fun they had.

It makes He-Man even more fantastic for me. Fact it is was such a popular toy even before there was a story.

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Maybe it's because I loved these in the 80e as a boy is why I like them so much now.

He's not asking about the Filmation cartoon. We all know the toys came first. We're talking about the Super7 "Curse of the Three Terrors" cartoon from 2016, and the toys related to it.

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Ok, I just watched the cartoon. I’m confused…so they made a new “filmation” episode so they could make some new toys? It feels like the whole thing a sorta art project in itself from cartoon to the figures.

I think that's the order it went in. They even did a limited edition VHS for SDCC.

[Val-Or]

Outside of Hsss and Khan, I could care less about the Snake and 200X stuff. I want Moss Man, Spikor, Sy-Klone, Two-Bad, and Extendar. I’d also like a Point Dread and Talon Fighter but I’m not holding my breath.


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[Dylamug]

Outside of Hsss and Khan, I could care less about the Snake and 200X stuff. I want Moss Man, Spikor, Sy-Klone, Two-Bad, and Extendar. I’d also like a Point Dread and Talon Fighter but I’m not holding my breath.


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It seems like it's gonna be a lean year for anyone who doesn't want those things.
Thunderpunch He-Man the only single carded vintage heroic warrior announced or leaked
Spikor the only Evil Warrior (Unless you're the type that thinks of Khan more as an EW rather than a Snake)
And no Horde.

[Bear]

Well, there is Grizzlor, released soon after Leech and Mantenna. We have most of Horde by now.

Khan is still an iconic Evil Warrior to many.

[Ultimate Sorceress]

I'm hoping Mantisaur is released next year but it's 50/50.
Excited for the single carded Grizzlor. He's iconic.

I think Cobra Khan is originally classified as an Evil Warrior but then was quickly absorbed into the Snake Men faction. I always thought his spray water feature was awesome.

[Sketchy Skeletor]

If I was Mattel I'd have been working in New Adventures already (the Mutants will totally work as Evil Warriors), but then I could see their turn happening alongside the Horde, and since all those PoP Masterverse names will have cost money to renew...

[Smitty.81]

It seems like it's gonna be a lean year for anyone who doesn't want those things.
Thunderpunch He-Man the only single carded vintage heroic warrior announced or leaked
Spikor the only Evil Warrior (Unless you're the type that thinks of Khan more as an EW rather than a Snake)
And no Horde.

It's also looking good for Extendar.

[MossMan710179]

If they give Snake Man-At-Arms the armor from the Power-Con Lords of Power set, I'll probably pick one up. If not, I'll probably pass.

Hopefully they give him the 200X mace that came with the Masters of the WWE Universe Rock figure...
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[zodak74]

Something I cobbled together... Waves 13-16 would finish out the majority of Snakemen and all of RotS (minus Butterfly Woman... she can sit on the back burner until PoP starts getting its due), while sprinkling in remaining Heroic, Evil Warriors, Horde, and also tapping into PoG:

Wave 13:

Tung Lashor
Two Bad
Moss Man
Holographo

Deluxe: Sssqueeze
Deluxe: Extendar

Battle Bones (w/Snake Hunter He-Man)

Mattel Creations Exclusive: Tyrantisaurus Rex


Wave 14:

Snake Face
Zap Man
Dragstor
Sy-Klone

Deluxe: Dragon Blaster Skeletor
Deluxe: Hurricane Hordak

Attak Trak

BBTS Exclusive: Screech & 200X Evil-Lyn

Mattel Creations Exclusive: Lord Masque & Shokoti Two-Pack


Wave 15:

Blast Attak
Fang-Or
Spikor
He-Ro

Deluxe: Rio Blast
Deluxe: Lady Slither

Mantisaur (w/new Horde Trooper repaint)

Wal-Mart Exclusive: Kikto, Duplico & Hypno RotS Three-Pack

Mattel Creations Exclusive: Night Stalker (w/Fire Armor Skeletor)


Wave 16:

Lord Gr'Asp
Sharella
Serpent Track Mekaneck
Terroar

Deluxe: Rokkon
Deluxe: Stonedar

Snake Mountain (w/Snake Crush Skeletor)


Mattel Creations Exclusive: 200X King Hiss Vs. Zodak Two-Pack

[Dylamug]

Something I cobbled together... Waves 13-16 would finish out the majority of Snakemen and all of RotS (minus Butterfly Woman... she can sit on the back burner until PoP starts getting its due), while sprinkling in remaining Heroic, Evil Warriors, Horde, and also tapping into PoG:

And I of course immediately homed in on the two things I can complain about in your idea

Blast Attak not a deluxe? I hope at the very least you'd have him split down the middle so we can pop him apart and plug him back together like a Lego even if hes not spring loaded.

You also DIDNT finish the Heroic or Evil Warriors because vintage isn't complete without Gwildor, Saurod and the Energy Zoids regardless of anyone who hates that fact

It IS good line up you propose overall...I'm just an ardent Blast Attak and Saurod fan

[Bear]

It's a nice list but it feels way too generous for Mattel to do.

Also, Deluxes come every 2 waves, not with every wave.

[zodak74]

And I of course immediately homed in on the two things I can complain about in your idea

Blast Attak not a deluxe? I hope at the very least you'd have him split down the middle so we can pop him apart and plug him back together like a Lego even if hes not spring loaded.

You also DIDNT finish the Heroic or Evil Warriors because vintage isn't complete without Gwildor, Saurod and the Energy Zoids regardless of anyone who hates that fact

It IS good line up you propose overall...I'm just an ardent Blast Attak and Saurod fan

Oh, the line would continue past Wave 16, for sure! I'm just thinking in terms of the next 12 months (for the most part, past the stuff that was revealed at SDCC) in an attempt to finish off the whole Rise Of The Snakemen sort of theme they're going for in 2023 (and probably Q1 2024).

After this, I'd say no more snakes and we can get to Blade, Saurod, Gwildor, PoP, NA, and whatever stragglers from the vintage line I might have overlooked (in addition to more concepts, Filmation, etc etc).

As for Blast Attak not being deluxe... I had trouble with both him and Sy-Klone trying to figure out whether or not I'd "plus them up" and how many parts would be involved. I'm thinking he probably wouldn't have the action feature necessarily, but you'd still be able to pull him apart down the middle and snap him back together. Or, if he WERE going to take up a Deluxe slot, I'd want the actual action feature with the "pushing the plunger" thing to pop him apart, and additionally have some sort of "blast effect" plastic piece(s) you could put between the two halves to visually represent an explosion.

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It's a nice list but it feels way too generous for Mattel to do.

Also, Deluxes come every 2 waves, not with every wave.

We're making Mattel (and ourselves) spend more money in 2023.