MOTU Origins: Master list and speculation of each wave

[Ultimate Sorceress]

Hi there Origins collectors, I thought it'd be fun to dedicate a new thread where we can update a master list for each official wave of the Origins line (in chronological order) and also waste time sharing our predictions for upcoming waves in 2023 and onwards...

Note: I'll use this first post to make the master list but in the meantime please feel free to speculate what you think we're likely to see in 2023? Also, please let me know if there are any errors!

PRE-WAVE EXCLUSIVES

Prince Adam and He-Man 2 Pack (2019 SDCC Comic-Con Exclusive)

He-Man, Man-At-Arms, Skeletor, Beast Man, Mer-Man - Lords of Power 5 Pack (2020 Power-Con Exclusive) (November 2020)

She-Ra (35th Anniversary) (2020 Power-Con Exclusive)


WAVE 1 (2020)

He-Man
Skeletor
Teela
Evil-Lyn
Man-at-Arms
Beastman

Battle Cat
Sky Sled with Prince Adam

WAVE 2 (2020)

Scareglow
Trapjaw
Orko
Man-E-Faces

WAVE 3 (2020)

She-Ra
Merman
Roboto
Zodac

Battle Armor He-Man
Battle Armor Skeletor

Panthor (Unflocked)
Castle Grayskull with Temple of Darkness Sorceress

EXCLUSIVE
Skeletor (Art of Engineering) - Mattel Creations Exclusive

WAVE 4 (2020)

Stratos
Hordak
Triklops
Ninjor

Clamp Champ
Ram Man

Panthor (Flocked) (Walmart Exclusive)
Landshark

WAVE 5 (2021)

Faker
Evil-Lyn (200X Recolor)
Merman (Lords of Power single carded)
Fisto
He-Man (Re-issue with vintage head)
Skeletor (Re-issue with vintage head)

Buzz Saw Hordak

Keldor and Kronis (Rise of Evil 2 Pack) (Target Exclusive)

Wind Raider

WAVE 6 (2021)

Stinkor
Beastman (Lords of Power single carded)
Webstor
Eternian Goddess

Mosquitor

Eternian Palace Guard

Battle Armor He-Man with Battle Cat - Battlefield Warriors (2 Pack) (Target Exclusive)

EXCLUSIVE(S) (August/September 2021)

Hordak (Filmation), Grizzlor (dark variant), Crimson Horde Trooper, Shadow Horde Trooper - Evil Horde Multi 4 Pack - Power-Con/ BBTS/ Mattel Creations Excusive August/September 2021

Faker and Dupli-Cat - Maniacal Mimics 2 Pack - Power-Con Excusive August 2021/ Mattel Creations Exclusive September 2021

Mysteries of Castle Grayskull Deluxe Accessories Pack (includes castle’s training android, 3D dungeon grate with monster, and the Spirit of Castle Grayskull) - Power-Con Excusive August 2021/ Mattel Creations Exclusive September 2021)

Tri-Klops (Mini Comic) - Mattel Creations Exclusive September 2021

Sun-Man (RoS) - Mattel Creations Exclusive September 2021

WAVE 7 (2022)

Sorceress
Jitsu
Buzz-Off
Stratos (Mini Comic)

Flying Fist He-Man
Terror Claw Skeletor

Stridor

WAVE 8 (2022)

Sun-Man (RoS)
Anti-Eternia He-Man
Clawful
Horde Trooper

EXCLUSIVE
Kol-Darr - Mattel Creations Exclusive

WAVE 9 (2022)

He-Man (200X)
Skeletor (200X)
Mantenna
Pighead (RoS)

Snout Spout
Leech

Roton

EXCLUSIVE
Wun-Dar - Mattel Creations Exclusive

WAVE 10 (2022)

Whiplash
Digitino (RoS)
Trap Jaw (Mini Comic)
King Randor

Sun-Man, Pig Head, Space Sumo - Rulers of the Sun 3 Pack (Target Exclusive)

Teela (200X) with Zoar 2 Pack

EXCLUSIVES
Grizzlor - Mattel Creations Exclusive
He-Man - Origins 40th Anniversary 4 Pack - Mattel Creations Exclusive
Wun-Dar - Mattel Creations Exclusive (re-release)

Eternia Playset (Ships approx 29 March 2024) - Mattel Creations Exclusive with King Grayskull and Moat monster.

WAVE 11 (Late October 2022 (New for 23)

Snake Armour He-Man
Kobra Khan
Rattlor
Bolt (RoS)

King Hiss
Thunder Punch He-Man

Mekanek and Ground Ripper 2 Pack

EXCLUSIVES

Camo Khan - Mattel Creations Exclusive

Space Sumo (RoS) - Mattel Creations Exclusive

WAVE 12 (February 2023)

Roboto (Mini-comic)
Snake Armor Skeletor
Tung Lashor
Hypno (ROS)

EXCLUSIVES

Duplico (RoS) (Mattel Creations / Walmart Exclusive for Wave 12)

Frog Monger (March 2023) - Mattel Creations Exclusive

WAVE 13 (March-June 2023)

Snake Teela
Snake Horde Trooper
King Randor (200X)
Slamurai

Dragon Blaster Skeletor
Snake Face

EXCLUSIVES

Skeletor And Screech 2 Pack (June 2023)

He-Skeletor (May 2023) - Mattel Creations Exclusive

WAVE 14 (3rd Quarter/October 2023)

Eternian Guard Infiltrator
Spikor
Sssqueze
Snake Armour Man-at-Arms

EXCLUSIVES

Specialty Snake Men Exclusive 4 Pack (June 2023)

Talon Fighter & Point Dread (July 2023)

Skeleton Warriors 2 Pack (August 2023)
Man-E-Faces (Mini-comic) (Amazon.com August 2023)
Moss Man (Flocked) (Fall 2023) - Walmart Exclusive

Holographo, Kikto, Zap Man - Rulers of the Sun 3 Pack (Target Exclusive)

EXCLUSIVES / Upcoming for 2023/2024

Snake Mountain Playset (Fall 2023)

Fang-Or - Mattel Creations Exclusive (August 2023)

Lady Slither - Mattel Creations Exclusive (September 2023)


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[Sketchy Skeletor]

I think we'll see the remaining vintage characters stretched out for the next two years though that could be put sharply into context with how fast the Snakemen are arriving! Still, there's any amount of 200X re-dos to potentially be had, a Night Stalker repaint (though Stridor shelf warmed HARD), the art we've seen suggests we're getting the Powers of Grayskull lot, and so on. The only real question for me is will Mattel wind their neck in on the unnecessary Creations exclusivity problems.

[Lasastard]

Well, from SDCC we have a reasonable idea of what comes after those announced waves and presumably sometime in 2023

- Mekaneck + Roadripper
- Rattlor
- Kobra Khan
- King Hiss
- Tung Lashor
- Grizzlor (MC exclusive)

After that (i.e. late 2023/2024), I assume we will see:

- King Grayskull (MC exclusive /w Eternia)
- Eternia playset
- GUESS: Moss-man (MC exclusive)
- GUESS: Nightstalker (tooling is done, would be silly not to use it)

What I would *love* to see before this line ends:

- Dragonwalker
- Dragonhead Skeletor
- Laserpower He-man/Skeletor
- Fright Zone playset

[Dylamug]

Any time I make predictions, I'm always proven wrong

But what the hell.
In 2023, two guys I am 100% confident in are He-Ro and Zodak. They're the two guys that were specifically "snake fighters" and hated King Hiss' guts. If next year is all-snake, they'd be pretty foolish to not include them.
Also, in his interview with Pixel Dan, Graham implied more than one of those boxart guys were coming besides the Skeletons. Safest bets are the frog and gladiator from wind raider box because of their obvious part reuse, and the cyclops because he was on the Grayskull box and the Wun-Dar comic with the aforementioned Skeletons.
They haven't revealed any vintage heroic warriors for 2023 besides Mekaneck, either. I figure we should at least get 1 or 2, so again I'll go with safe bets: Moss Man, Sy-klone and Extendar were all teased, so I'd expect them.
I expect a Snake Mountain reveal for next year, but do NOT expect Eternia. I don't know how long crowd funded stuff takes off hand, but I'm gonna guess it'll be a drawn out process and the actual set won't ship until sometime in 2024.

[Durendal]

Latest card art teases:

Snake Face
Sssqueeze
Terroar
Lord Gr'Asp
Reptilax
Lady Slither
King Hiss's Slave Girl
Snake Troopers
Laser Light Skeletor
Laser Power He-Man
He-Ro
Eldor
Megator
Tytus
Sharella

[Smitty.81]

Latest card art teases:

Snake Face
Sssqueeze
Terroar
Lord Gr'Asp
Reptilax
Lady Slither
King Hiss's Slave Girl
Laser Light Skeletor
Laser Power He-Man
He-Ro
Eldor
Megator
Tytus
Sharella

Art from exclusives does not count.

[Ultimate Sorceress]

Prediction for end of year and some of 2023:

Camo Khan - MC Exclusive
Grizzlor - MC Exclusive

He-Man Origins 4 Pack - MC Exclusive

2023

He-Man 200X Snake Armour
Kobra Khan
Rattlor
Bolt

King Hiss Deluxe
Thunder Punch He Man Deluxe

Mekanek and Roadripper 2 Pack

Moss Man - MC Exclusive
Cyclops beast (Wun-Dar villain) - MC Exclusive
Sharella - MC Exclusive
Wun-Dar - MC Exclusive re-release with something different

Tung Lashor
Skeletor 200X Snake Armour
Brand new Snake man!
Hypnos

Sssqueeze Deluxe
Extendar Deluxe

[Val-Or]

I would hope we’ll get Moss Man, Sy-Klone, and Two-Bad next year. It’s annoying that the latter is in Masterverse first. Once I’ve got Hiss, KK, Mekaneck, Moss Man, SK, and Two-Bad, I’ll be done. I want Randor but I’ll be fine if I can’t get him. I also wanted at least one Horde Trooper but have yet to see them in my area. The only other want I have was an initial prediction for 2023 that I now don’t think will happen: Point Dread and the Talon Fighter. If the line continues beyond next year, it might be an exclusive but I doubt it. I think Eternia and the Snake Men are the grand finale of this line, not counting a few new reveals at Power Con. No more mounts or vehicles besides the Road Ripper.


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[Ultimate Sorceress]

I think there's a good chance that Point Dread will be a vehicle/playset for 2023. Castle Grayskull isn't complete without Point Dread IMO. Also think Mantisaur will be made available.

Along with a few people who've already mentioned it, I think the Eternia playset will take around a year to manufacture/ distribute and could see it in hand in early 2024.

Extra note: I do think Zombie He-Man will be an exclusive with the Slime Pit and that will be a playset in 2023 too.

[Ultimate Sorceress]

I updated the master list to include Wave 11 seeing that the figures have been shown on social media by Mattel employees and the Mattel Creations announcements.

[anonymousmoose]

Is king hiss coming the W11?

https://ms-my.facebook.com/jrstoywor...341197/?type=3

[Bear]

Wasn't officially said but I'd say 80% yes.

[Smitty.81]

Is king hiss coming the W11?

https://ms-my.facebook.com/jrstoywor...341197/?type=3

King Hiss is in the next deluxe wave, it'll be the fist Rise of the Snakemen deluxe wave and is officially the first wave of 2023 but we could see it as early as this November.

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[MCX-Eternia]

King Hiss is in the next deluxe wave, it'll be the fist Rise of the Snakemen deluxe wave and is officially the first wave of 2023 but we could see it as early as this November.

I'm expecting to first see the Randor/Whiplash wave at brick & mortar/target.com/Amazon/BBTS this November!

[Smitty.81]

I'm expecting to first see the Randor/Whiplash wave at brick & mortar/target.com/Amazon/BBTS this November!

You might be right. The big shipping delay has messed up the pattern we use to have.

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[anytimepally]

King Hiss is in the next deluxe wave, it'll be the fist Rise of the Snakemen deluxe wave and is officially the first wave of 2023 but we could see it as early as this November.

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Probably will. Amazon shows a November release. https://www.amazon.com/Masters-Unive.../dp/B0B811KXC6

[Smitty.81]

Probably will. Amazon shows a November release. https://www.amazon.com/Masters-Unive.../dp/B0B811KXC6

Awesome! But where's Thunder Punch He-Man!?

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[anonymousmoose]

I like king hiss. One I'll get for sure if available. Had no idea what he was as a kid. No internet then and didn't see the comic or episode he would have been in. He was just some cool snake monster-man.

We would have picked a lot of my he-man figures up from garage sales and swap meets back then. Those were the days. Loved the 80s


https://youtu.be/RvWzndcMK1Y

[Snake_Man]

Isn't the "standard" (orange) Beast Man missing from the Wave One listing in the first post??

[depp76]

Isn't the "standard" (orange) Beast Man missing from the Wave One listing in the first post??

Yes you are correct...he was definitely a part of Wave one.

[Ultimate Sorceress]

Isn't the "standard" (orange) Beast Man missing from the Wave One listing in the first post??

Oops! Fixed that! Thanks for spotting it and letting me know

[Dylamug]

Just a couple of nitpicks:
Why is Ram Man by himself in wave 4? I don't know how he was released in the States, but here, it was only Battle Armor He-Man and Skeletor with wave 3, and both Clamp Champ and Ram Man came with wave 4.
Also, Buzzsaw Hordak and Mosquitor should probably be broken up, since, while they shared a minicomic, there was like a five month gap between their releases, so it was more like Hordak was wave 5 but Mosquitor was closer to wave 6

[Bear]

I think it's fair to guess that Wave 12 is Tung Lashor, Snake Amor Skeletor, Holographo (or Hypno) and ???.

Thing is, if they go with Snake Face, then they might as well wrap-up already Rise Of Snake Men because there only one serpent left.

So either they will have to make characters that aren't Snake Men (besides Rulers of the Sun) or make low-on-vintage Waves like they did Wave 8.

[Snake_Man]

Just a couple of nitpicks:
Why is Ram Man by himself in wave 4? I don't know how he was released in the States, but here, it was only Battle Armor He-Man and Skeletor with wave 3, and both Clamp Champ and Ram Man came with wave 4.

Yes, I can confirm that Ram-Man and Clamp Champ shared a Deluxe Wave in U.S. releases, though I couldn't verify WHICH Wave (Number) it was... :^)

[Ultimate Sorceress]

Just a couple of nitpicks:
Why is Ram Man by himself in wave 4? I don't know how he was released in the States, but here, it was only Battle Armor He-Man and Skeletor with wave 3, and both Clamp Champ and Ram Man came with wave 4.
Also, Buzzsaw Hordak and Mosquitor should probably be broken up, since, while they shared a minicomic, there was like a five month gap between their releases, so it was more like Hordak was wave 5 but Mosquitor was closer to wave 6

Thanks for noticing those. I corrected them.

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Maybe they’ll use the Snake Men “event” to release Preternian characters like He-Ro, since they were the villains of the Power of Grayskull line. That seems like a good way to stretch things out while staying on theme. Blast Attack could also be lumped in with the snakes, since he was in the old minicomics sometimes.

I would love to see He-Ro and Eldor be released next year with the Snakemen.