MOTU Origins: Master list and speculation of each wave

[Dylamug]

Just a couple of nitpicks:
Why is Ram Man by himself in wave 4? I don't know how he was released in the States, but here, it was only Battle Armor He-Man and Skeletor with wave 3, and both Clamp Champ and Ram Man came with wave 4.
Also, Buzzsaw Hordak and Mosquitor should probably be broken up, since, while they shared a minicomic, there was like a five month gap between their releases, so it was more like Hordak was wave 5 but Mosquitor was closer to wave 6

[Bear]

I think it's fair to guess that Wave 12 is Tung Lashor, Snake Amor Skeletor, Holographo (or Hypno) and ???.

Thing is, if they go with Snake Face, then they might as well wrap-up already Rise Of Snake Men because there only one serpent left.

So either they will have to make characters that aren't Snake Men (besides Rulers of the Sun) or make low-on-vintage Waves like they did Wave 8.

[Snake_Man]

Just a couple of nitpicks:
Why is Ram Man by himself in wave 4? I don't know how he was released in the States, but here, it was only Battle Armor He-Man and Skeletor with wave 3, and both Clamp Champ and Ram Man came with wave 4.

Yes, I can confirm that Ram-Man and Clamp Champ shared a Deluxe Wave in U.S. releases, though I couldn't verify WHICH Wave (Number) it was... :^)

[AnimalGrandpa]

I think it's fair to guess that Wave 12 is Tung Lashor, Snake Amor Skeletor, Holographo (or Hypno) and ???.

Thing is, if they go with Snake Face, then they might as well wrap-up already Rise Of Snake Men because there only one serpent left.

Maybe they’ll use the Snake Men “event” to release Preternian characters like He-Ro, since they were the villains of the Power of Grayskull line. That seems like a good way to stretch things out while staying on theme. Blast Attack could also be lumped in with the snakes, since he was in the old minicomics sometimes.

[Bear]

Maybe they’ll use the Snake Men “event” to release Preternian characters like He-Ro, since they were the villains of the Power of Grayskull line. That seems like a good way to stretch things out while staying on theme. Blast Attack could also be lumped in with the snakes, since he was in the old minicomics sometimes.

I recall Gwildor was rumored but most people thought it's an April Fool.

But hey, dude has to come out at some point, with Snake focus we shouldn't use Evil Warriors and Horde, most heroes left are Deluxe material and we could use some vintage representation. Wouldn't be crazy if he did show up so his Cosmic Key can justify the presence of He-Ro?

[Ultimate Sorceress]

Just a couple of nitpicks:
Why is Ram Man by himself in wave 4? I don't know how he was released in the States, but here, it was only Battle Armor He-Man and Skeletor with wave 3, and both Clamp Champ and Ram Man came with wave 4.
Also, Buzzsaw Hordak and Mosquitor should probably be broken up, since, while they shared a minicomic, there was like a five month gap between their releases, so it was more like Hordak was wave 5 but Mosquitor was closer to wave 6

Thanks for noticing those. I corrected them.

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Maybe they’ll use the Snake Men “event” to release Preternian characters like He-Ro, since they were the villains of the Power of Grayskull line. That seems like a good way to stretch things out while staying on theme. Blast Attack could also be lumped in with the snakes, since he was in the old minicomics sometimes.

I would love to see He-Ro and Eldor be released next year with the Snakemen.

[Smitty.81]

Is king hiss coming the W11?

https://ms-my.facebook.com/jrstoywor...341197/?type=3

King Hiss is in the next deluxe wave, it'll be the fist Rise of the Snakemen deluxe wave and is officially the first wave of 2023 but we could see it as early as this November.

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[Smitty.81]

I think it's fair to guess that Wave 12 is Tung Lashor, Snake Amor Skeletor, Holographo (or Hypno) and ???.

Thing is, if they go with Snake Face, then they might as well wrap-up already Rise Of Snake Men because there only one serpent left.

So either they will have to make characters that aren't Snake Men (besides Rulers of the Sun) or make low-on-vintage Waves like they did Wave 8.

I think each Rise of the Snakemen wave will have 2 Snakemen, one Ruler of the Sun, and one heroic master. There's still a few easy vintage figures to get out and a lot of POP, NA, and 200X.

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[MCX-Eternia]

King Hiss is in the next deluxe wave, it'll be the fist Rise of the Snakemen deluxe wave and is officially the first wave of 2023 but we could see it as early as this November.

I'm expecting to first see the Randor/Whiplash wave at brick & mortar/target.com/Amazon/BBTS this November!

[anytimepally]

King Hiss is in the next deluxe wave, it'll be the fist Rise of the Snakemen deluxe wave and is officially the first wave of 2023 but we could see it as early as this November.

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Probably will. Amazon shows a November release. https://www.amazon.com/Masters-Unive.../dp/B0B811KXC6

[Smitty.81]

I'm expecting to first see the Randor/Whiplash wave at brick & mortar/target.com/Amazon/BBTS this November!

You might be right. The big shipping delay has messed up the pattern we use to have.

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[Smitty.81]

Probably will. Amazon shows a November release. https://www.amazon.com/Masters-Unive.../dp/B0B811KXC6

Awesome! But where's Thunder Punch He-Man!?

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[Ultimate Sorceress]

List has been updated with information found on Amazon Mexico. Let the speculation begin!

I think these new rumoured figures could even be for Wave 13 because of the release dates. Isn't there a drop around March?

[Dylamug]

List has been updated with information found on Amazon Mexico. Let the speculation begin!

So, between this and what was shown at SDCC, this is what I'm gonna guess at:
Wave 12 will be Snake Armor Skeletor, Tung Lsshor, Hypno and Spikor. Plot of the minicomic is Spikor as blacksmith making Skeletor some cool armor to either fight invading snakes or to team up with snakes like in the old minicomics. Hypno beats them all up
Wave 13 will be 200x Randor, Snake Teela, Eternian Guard Infiltrador and Snake Trooper. Plot of the minicomic is an all out Snake invasion of Eternos, with Teela and her guards becoming snakes and Randor defending his kingdom alone.
Sssqueeze and Serpent Claw MAA will be deluxes for the year. Sssqueeze because long arms, and MAA because that variant had a ton of new accesories

[Ultimate Sorceress]

I really like this prediction. I also think the latest news will be Wave 13.

[Smitty.81]

So, between this and what was shown at SDCC, this is what I'm gonna guess at:
Wave 12 will be Snake Armor Skeletor, Tung Lsshor, Hypno and Spikor. Plot of the minicomic is Spikor as blacksmith making Skeletor some cool armor to either fight invading snakes or to team up with snakes like in the old minicomics. Hypno beats them all up
Wave 13 will be 200x Randor, Snake Teela, Eternian Guard Infiltrador and Snake Trooper. Plot of the minicomic is an all out Snake invasion of Eternos, with Teela and her guards becoming snakes and Randor defending his kingdom alone.
Sssqueeze and Serpent Claw MAA will be deluxes for the year. Sssqueeze because long arms, and MAA because that variant had a ton of new accesories

You seem to have forgotten about THUNDER PUNCH HE-MAN!

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[Ultimate Sorceress]

I think Thunder Punch He-Man might be released with King Hiss for Wave 11?

[Orko's Magic Hat]

So, between this and what was shown at SDCC, this is what I'm gonna guess at:
Wave 12 will be Snake Armor Skeletor, Tung Lsshor, Hypno and Spikor. Plot of the minicomic is Spikor as blacksmith making Skeletor some cool armor to either fight invading snakes or to team up with snakes like in the old minicomics. Hypno beats them all up
Wave 13 will be 200x Randor, Snake Teela, Eternian Guard Infiltrador and Snake Trooper. Plot of the minicomic is an all out Snake invasion of Eternos, with Teela and her guards becoming snakes and Randor defending his kingdom alone.
Sssqueeze and Serpent Claw MAA will be deluxes for the year. Sssqueeze because long arms, and MAA because that variant had a ton of new accesories

That sounds like a pretty realistic prediction

[Dylamug]

You seem to have forgotten about THUNDER PUNCH HE-MAN!

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Didn't forget nothing. The assumption is Thunderpunch goes with King Hiss because it was leaked that they were paired, so I didn't see the point in reiterating either of them or wave 11, just the new and unconfirmed stuff

[Smitty.81]

Didn't forget nothing. The assumption is Thunderpunch goes with King Hiss because it was leaked that they were paired, so I didn't see the point in reiterating either of them or wave 11, just the new and unconfirmed stuff

Oh right. He was my favorite He-Man when I was growing up. I recall at the SDCC presentation they said they weren't ready to show Thunder Punch He-Man's card, so I wonder what's on the card that they did not want us to see?

It's would be kind of funny and disappointing in his card art was like the one from the Horde Trooper, but with Snake Troopers.

[Bear]

Idk, I can't imagine whole wave without vintage or Sun-Man.

Also, it's hilariously repetitive. Teela but snake, palace guard but snake, Horde Trooper but snake...

[Fandabidozi]

So, between this and what was shown at SDCC, this is what I'm gonna guess at:
Wave 13 will be 200x Randor, Snake Teela, Eternian Guard Infiltrador and Snake Trooper. Plot of the minicomic is an all out Snake invasion of Eternos, with Teela and her guards becoming snakes and Randor defending his kingdom alone.
Sssqueeze and Serpent Claw MAA will be deluxes for the year. Sssqueeze because long arms, and MAA because that variant had a ton of new accesories

Then, wave 13 would be the first where I don’t want a single figure which isn’t filing me with joy, although my wallet will be happy. I’d much rather we got some PoP in this line than more 200X.

[Orko's Magic Hat]

Then, wave 13 would be the first where I don’t want a single figure which isn’t filing me with joy, although my wallet will be happy. I’d much rather we got some PoP in this line than more 200X.

Well I'm hoping that once the Snakes are done for 2022, then 2023 will be about the Horde and POP. I can see them holding off Hurricane Hordak, Dragstor, Modulok, Multi-Bot and even Wrap-Trap until then. Also hoping we see Adora, Bow, Frosta, Catra, Starburst She-Ra make an appearance.

[MCX-Eternia]

Well I'm hoping that once the Snakes are done for 2022, then 2023 will be about the Horde and POP.

The Snakes ARE 2023. The Whiplash/Randor wave will be the last one before Christmas, Wave 11 the first of 2023, and these Snaky Mexican leaks are for summer 2023. If Dylamug is correct that two of them are deluxe, then we can expect one more unrevealed basic wave in 2023, which still needs to include Snake Men to wrap up this small faction.

[Dylamug]

Well I'm hoping that once the Snakes are done for 2022, then 2023 will be about the Horde and POP. I can see them holding off Hurricane Hordak, Dragstor, Modulok, Multi-Bot and even Wrap-Trap until then. Also hoping we see Adora, Bow, Frosta, Catra, Starburst She-Ra make an appearance.

If they made 2024 all about Horde AND PoP, from a marketing point of view, that'd be a good way to sell the Octavia and Dylamug featured on the Horde Powercon box at retail.
"Hey, remember those two minor villains from the PoP cartoon? Did you know they were based on concept art from the Masters of the Universe toyline? Well, now to celebrate both the MotU toyline and the 40th anniversary of She-Ra, these concept designs will make their first appearance in toy form"

Positioning it like that, as both a celebration of She-Ra and as a piece of the MotU toyline's development history, would maximize hype for what would otherwise just be seen as two "literally who?" D-listers getting toys