I'm sure Gunn's movies will be fine, but they're not going to be the hits Warner want them to be. That's due to multiple factors beyond their control.Originally Posted by Ornclown
I'm sure Gunn's movies will be fine, but they're not going to be the hits Warner want them to be. That's due to multiple factors beyond their control.
Warner Bros have been making some terrible stuff though like Velma and Thundercats Roar.
Orn's got a point in that Honest Trailers do make fun of everything, they've even able to make the more well received movies look like a waste of people's time and money in retrospect.
I haven't seen Black Adam, but the audience reception for it was more positive than critic scores, Shazam 2 likewise has more positive vibes from those who spent time to see it, even if that audience isn't enough to sustain it's legs theatrically.
Too much is known about DC's constant failings to permit any kind of escapism, it's like being a wrestling fan in the 21st century, not only do you know how it's made, you're more interested in how they make it and getting more invested in the behind-the-scenes goings on and the politics
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So people keep wanting to ignore the facts that Dwayne was part of the problem too or are people just going to ignore that one too?
See it's funny when they're are FACTS about something from more than one credible source some people will ALWAYS have blinders on (For whatever reason) that's like saying someone does something like punching someone they have witnesses and evidence and some people say no that's not true...
Just look at Ezra Miller even though he broke MANY laws people are finding EXCUSES to make up for what he did/does....
Listen if Robert Downey Jr. threatened to murder people or kidnap someone I wouldn't back him "Just Because" I was into Comic Books movies....
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Yes but you shouldn't say that because your actually making sense...
Some people do not watch movies to play a blame game, especially if they personally enjoyed what was put to screen in spite of it. Should they cast blame on those people for why they won't get any more of it? I think that's also fair and they should, but if they enjoyed that first movie, there's nothing wrong with that. It'd be better if they just said they enjoyed it but were in a minority of people that did.So people keep wanting to ignore the facts that Dwayne was part of the problem too or are people just going to ignore that one too?
So people should just accept things "blindly" even though in this case the actor AND studio were at fault?
Doesn't make sense and I know people love certain things we GET IT!!!!!
This is always like a dead end street people like it and some don't please stop telling people that have fault with the film what you think WE KNOW!!!
Sorry alot of people don't like things if they are bad I have a higher standard especially since i know the source material etc. which is what they base it upon....
NOT some actor's ego or clause in his contract to dictate what he can change etc.
(Look it up it is REAL) for those who ignore details like this more power to you but your in the minority...
https://wegotthiscovered.com/movies/...ast-of-shazam/
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My only real gripe with them so far (aside from mediocre capes) is that they're actually a bit smaller/thinner than the old Kenner and Toy Biz figures. It's not like SUPER noticeable but it's enough to discourage me from trying to display the old and new figures together. Kind of a bummer. I'm still getting all of them, though.
I picked up an extra Flash and Darkseid, Flash to go over with metallic paints for the 1990s Wally West look and Darkseid to repaint into Mongul. I've just been way too busy to work on either lately. I did the Wally West gimmick on a Toy Biz Flash recently but after that I needed a break.
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Just a quick reminder about RDJ:Listen if Robert Downey Jr. threatened to murder people or kidnap someone I wouldn't back him "Just Because" I was into Comic Books movies....
"In 1995, Downey Jr. found himself in a vicious cycle of going from rehab, to set and then going on a binge of drugs and alcohol. Downey Jr. broke out of a rehab facility a few days later. In 1996, Downey Jr. was arrested for various crimes like speeding, driving under the influence and possession of drugs and firearms.
During this time, he was once found unconscious and unresponsive by his neighbor and had to be resuscitated at USC medical center. The next day, he was court-ordered to attend a 24-hour drug rehabilitation program but escaped the facility and hitchhiked home. Four hours later, he was caught by the police and put in jail for nine days. Between 1997 and 2003, Downey Jr. was in and out of court and prison."
https://www.therecoveryvillage.com/d...y-jr-recovery/
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I agree on this. Both of these can burn in the deepest pits of he11 for all of time.
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Who doesn't know BUT this never happened AFTER he got the Iron Man role...BIG DiFFERENCE!Just a quick reminder about RDJ:
"In 1995, Downey Jr. found himself in a vicious cycle of going from rehab, to set and then going on a binge of drugs and alcohol. Downey Jr. broke out of a rehab facility a few days later. In 1996, Downey Jr. was arrested for various crimes like speeding, driving under the influence and possession of drugs and firearms.
During this time, he was once found unconscious and unresponsive by his neighbor and had to be resuscitated at USC medical center. The next day, he was court-ordered to attend a 24-hour drug rehabilitation program but escaped the facility and hitchhiked home. Four hours later, he was caught by the police and put in jail for nine days. Between 1997 and 2003, Downey Jr. was in and out of court and prison."
https://www.therecoveryvillage.com/d...y-jr-recovery/
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I agree on this. Both of these can burn in the deepest pits of he11 for all of time.
Auto correct can't correct everythingAnswer me this question when is it going to be OK in this PC world where we can't hurt anyone's feeling even though the FACTS reported are true?
I really think that someone could commit Murder and as long as that person was a favorite actor/actress of there's OR in a genre they liked the would look the other way WOW!
If your trying to compare what happened to RDJ and Ezra Miller that is a BIG difference in the crimes committed RDJ was hurting himself more than anyone and Ezra is trying to hurt other people but that's OK I guess?
Being always positive and loving everything about a franchise is not a bad thing, I'd rather be this way than snubbing my nose at everything and being negative and hateful.
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Mikey I know you are also a Scooby fan so what's your opinion on the "Velma" show?
I haven't actually seen the Velma show yet, I can't comment.
I love both the Classic Thundercats and the newer (2011) Thundercats series, but I am not a fan of Thundercats Roar either.
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Mikey when even you are not a fan of Roar I don't think you would be a fan of Velma.I haven't actually seen the Velma show yet, I can't comment.
I love both the Classic Thundercats and the newer (2011) Thundercats series, but I am not a fan of Thundercats Roar either.
So what if I am? A minority isn't always wrong.
And I'm not touching a "We Got It Covered" link. Those guys are clickbait and outrage click grifters
Your picking ONE site others that are reputable are right....
Yes but you shouldn't say that because your actually making sense...
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Those Super Power style figures by Boss Fight Studios of Flash gordon, Ming, Phantom and Thun look really nice. They look a lot more like the stance and build of the original Kenner figures.
Yeah those look cool, too. I really like all the "retro"-inspired lines lately. Really takes me back.
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The second week for Shazam! Fury of the Gods did not fare any better than the first:
https://movieweb.com/shazam-fury-of-...x-office-drop/
Shazam! Fury of the Gods Sees One of the Worst Second Week Drops of the DCEU
"While Shazam! Fury of the Gods crossed $100 million worldwide; its second weekend saw a huge drop in box office earnings. Shazam! Fury of the Gods did not make the splash it was intended to at the box office last week, and this week it suffered another blow as its second weekend saw a 68% drop compared to its debut. After just a week of release, the movie was almost beaten at the domestic box office by Creed III and Scream VI, which have been out for three and two weeks, respectively. As another superhero movie to crash for the DC franchise, there is seemingly more pressure on The Flash to perform later this year.
Very much like Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania, a release early in the year has not done Shazam! Fury of the Gods any favors, and coupled with the almost simultaneous announcement that the film will hit home release after just a month, anyone on the fence about venturing into cinemas could have made the conscious decision to wait for that release to see a movie that is fun, but nothing hugely consequential one way or the other to the DCU.
Shazam! Fury of the Gods has received positive reviews from audiences but not necessarily from critics. While many of the main surprises from the movie were spoiled in marketing, Shazam 2’s box office has also suggested comic book hero movies about characters who are not seen as one of the “big guns” always have a risk of becoming just another movie rather than one that sits with the elite of superhero movies.
Shazam! Fury of the Gods is another recent movie that massively splits critics and audiences. In a video on his Instagram account, star Zachary Levi addressed the differences in opinion and urged fans to get out and review the film, whatever their thoughts on it. He said:
'I would love [for] our audience score to get so dang high, that people are like 'This doesn't make any sense!' Because it doesn't make any sense. It doesn't make any sense that we got shut down the way that we got shut down. Again, all you haters out there [saying] 'your movie sucks.' It doesn't. It legitimately doesn't. In fact, if any of you actually saw the movie — which I'm sure that you haven't — you will recognize that it really doesn't suck. It's a really entertaining, really fun movie. So for all of you out there who have seen the movie, or when you do see the movie, go to Rotten Tomatoes. Go tell them that you enjoyed it. And by the way, if you didn't, you can tell them that too.'
Shazam! Fury of the Gods may have disappointed, having just passed $100 million at the worldwide box office this weekend, but it is still currently the sixth-highest earner of the year so far and has taken more than many other movies will this year. The biggest issue is that with a budget of around $125 million, that isn’t enough to make it a hit and is the problem facing movies like the Shazam! sequel."
And on a related note:
https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-e...-b2308543.html
Zachary Levi addresses claims he ‘blamed’ Dwayne Johnson for Shazam 2’s box office failure
"Zachary Levi has addressed claims that he “blamed” Dwayne Johnson for Shazam 2’s box office failure. Last week, the actor shared an article that suggested his fellow DC co-star had “kneecapped” the sequel. On 21 March, The Wrap published a report claiming that Johnson had vetoed a post-credits scene featuring Levi’s character, which would have served as a marketing boost for Shazam! Fury of the Gods. Levi posted a screenshot of the article on his Instagram Story, writing: “The truth will set you free.” He was then accused of blaming Johnson for Fury of the God’s underwhelming box office takings, something he referenced head on during an Instagram Live.
'I may or may not have, you know, reposted something in my Stories about a story that I had nothing to do with that The Wrap had reported on. And then I got flack about it because people were saying ‘Oh, What are you doing? You’re trying to blame this guy because your movie’s not doing well,’” he said. Listen, I haven’t blamed anybody. There’s not one single person that I have blamed for anything about the way that our movie has performed.” He explained why he shared the article, stating: “The reason I decided to share that was not because I wanna blame anybody for anything. It’s because I do not want to be blamed for things that are not on me. And as a leader, and I believe, a protector of my family, my Shazam-ly and everyone who worked so hard on these movies, we have been doing everything we can to fight for you, the fans.”
Levi claimed that the film’s production team were “thwarted” over the scrapped post-credit scene, but didn’t specifically say who by. The actor also said the film is better than critics have given it credit for, comparing it to family movies from the 1980s including The Goonies and ET, suggesting this is why families should see opt to see it over John Wick Chapter 4. Fury of the Gods took just $30.5m (£25m) on its opening weekend at the US box office, down more than $20m (£16.3m) from the first film’s domestic opening in 2019. The DC Comics film cost $110m (£90m) to make and Warner Bros spent another $100m (£100m) in marketing, making a financial failure seem more than likely for the movie.
Levi’s co-star. Rachel Zegler, recently defended the sequel against “senselessly mean” criticisms. In a two-star review for The Independent, Clarrise Loughrey described Fury of the Gods as “a film that isn’t without promise, but feels far too messy and corporatised to have any real affection for”.
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I am waiting for HBO Max. I did the same for Black Adam. The quality of the DC films has not justified going to a theater. I might consider VOD if I was not already paying for their streaming service. But as it is, there is not enough exclusive content for me to feel as if I am getting a good value, so the least I can do is wait for these films to debut there. It is already annoying that so many DC animated films go straight to VOD, and skip the streaming service entirely. It makes me question why I am paying for this service, when they release everything outside of it.
The DC animated films do end up on HBO Max eventually. I think WB just delays it to help physical media sales.
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I actually enjoyed Shazam 2 quite a bit, mainly because I loved the first one and thought it was a good sequel. But I can understand the reaction a lot of people have towards it and don't begrudge them at all. It's not must see at the theater so I think it will get a better reception on video/PVOD/streaming. DC movies are definitely in state of transition but I really doubt the average moviegoer even knows that. I think this and Ant-Man 3 are suffering from not being movies about the big guns. I don't think we have hit superhero fatigue yet but Guardians 3, being Gunn's swan song for the MCU, will be a good indicator if people have really started turning away from comic book movies in general. As a fan of the current DCEU, I am going to miss these versions of the characters, but I am generally happy with what we got and will always have those movies to go back to as I choose. But I trust Gunn to do right as best as he can and am looking forward to his vision. And the fact they aren't messing with Patterson's Batman is quite smart. Sometimes I feel like the current MCU can be better if they allow some non-continuity movies as well. Not everything has to be connected, that way you can take more chances.
The very idea they keep pushing that somehow a Black Adam cameo in Shazam 2, or a Captain Marvel (That is the character's proper name, bite me) cameo in Black Adam, would have magically generated hundreds of millions more dollars for either movie is bananas. But that IS the narrative they're trying to push, because otherwise there was no need for any of this "drama" to "leak" out at such a "convenient" time. That's actually the scapegoat they've chosen: "Dwayne messed everything up, the big meanie." My goodness.
To be clear, I generally cannot stand Dwayne. But this stuff just reeks of desperation and a need for the movie's failure to be someone's Fault, so long as it's not WB's for not reading the room.
As soon as the trailers hit, people generally said the movie looked godawful, with no-name villains and an apparent decision to triple-down on "silly". The movie was tracking poorly for months and had almost zero buzz. WB even let the trailers spoil the big "surprise" cameo because the pre-sales were so bad they were hoping that would entice people to go, and it didn't. The overall lack of interest did not help, and the fact that none of these movies will matter in 6 months did even more to ensure that people stayed home.
But sure, yeah, a post-credits 10-second staring contest between Cap and Black Adam would have been the magic bullet, if only that darn Dwayne had played ball. Why not?
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It's a shame too, because he started off looking like he was going to be really good. But he might've peaked with The Rundown.
While guys like Dave Bautista and John Cena started off pretty rough, but have become very entertaining.
Speaking of which, the WB adaptation of Batman: The Doom That Came to Gotham is getting great reviews.
I am both a fan of Batman and H.P. Lovecraft, and Doom is one of my favorite recent comic books... I haven't seen the movie yet, but I am really excited to see how it translates from the pages!
Yep, Fury of the Gods is a great sequel. The fact that people were writing this off because of the chaos going on at WB is truly sad. Gunn said in an interview with NPR that if Shazam II does well and people want more of it, then it would be incorporated into the new DCEU filmverse... the director even went to social media and said as much.
I don't know what will ultimately happen, but it is a shame that so many fans let other people do their thinking for them... if you enjoyed the first movie, why wouldn't you go to its sequel? Because some "critic" says that it's not as good as the first? Because Captain Marvel may not have a place in Gunn's DCEU? Silly.
I really enjoy this movie and I like the message that the director is conveying. No hero is on an island... not even someone like Captain Marvel. However, we can get by with a little help from our friends (and family)!
My biggest gripe with this sequel is the lack of Billy Batson moments... but, that's understandable because Asher Angel is no longer a kid.
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Also, on a similar note, apparently Netflix is buying the rights to add the "Snyderverse" to its streaming service. Man of Steel, Batman V Superman, and Justice League Snyder Cut are all on the table.
Of course, this has lead to some wild speculation about Netflix continuing with Snyder's vision for the post-JL movies being made exclusively for Netflix. When he was asked about it, Zack Snyder did not deny the rumors, but he did say that he has very little control over these decisions. However, he is supposed to make a surprise announcement at SDCC this summer. Hmmmmmmmm? Could be nothing, but it's fun to dream!
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To be honest I think it's less about the fans and more about general audiences just plane losing interest in DC movies, since they are the ones who drive how well the films do at the box office (more so than the fans at least).
It's superhero fatigue and this movie really doesn't sound like it was telling anything new with the premise. I wanted a sequel to deal with Mr. Mind, not original villains.
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