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    The term "Repaints" for origins part sharing figures

    The term "Repaints" conjures up the idea Mattel took unsellable figures, and repainted them a different color to bring some new life to try to resell them.

    In the past company would de this, you could even scrap the paint off and see the original underneath.
    (I had a superman toy as a kid, and originally it was a soldier repainted by the company and re-released, some paint was wearing through, and the underside you could see the army manís designs underneath)

    (The weird part is before that it was like pop or beer cans, I donít remember all the detail, as I was young, but it started to fall apart, and you could see on the inside it still had the original can markings and logo.)

    The funny thing is when my kids were little they had some of those wrist slapping bracelets, and the outer covering started to come off, and the inside was made from a measuring tape, which of course brought backing the memories of the old wind up Superman tank toy I had made from old pop cans.

    Anyway, from Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    A repaint is a toy, typically a figure or doll, that was created entirely from a mold was previously available; however, the colors of the plastic and/or the paint operations have been changed. Repaints differ from redecos in that repaints do not alter the actual placement of paint applications while redecos do.

    Since molds can be expensive to create, this is often seen as a comparatively inexpensive way for a toy company to make many different toys available in a cost-effective manner. It is also an effective way for toy manufacturers to produce exclusive figures, chase figures or other variants.

    One of the many franchises that repaint their figures is Transformers. Bumblebee toys are sometimes repainted the color red to resemble another Transformers character: Cliffjumper.

    In the collecting of 1:6th action figures, repainting has several methods. They can generally be narrowed down to 3 categories: paint, pastel and wash.

    The term repaint also refers to fashion dolls whose original manufacturer face paint is removed and then repainted by an artist. Repaint styles include highly realistic treatments, fantasy makeovers, and celebrity likenesses. These dolls are often OOAK (one of a kind), although some artists create repaints in small limited editions.

    Ok here's my question for you:

    Even though this article refers to plastic color changes as repaints, I still donít see it being called that. Please share your thoughts. Am I just old and stuck in my ways, or should we come up with a new term for when they used the same molds, but different plastic color, and it not an old figure being physically ďRepaintedĒ?

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    I am not sure on that, He-bro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neophron View Post
    I am not sure on that, He-bro.
    We need an expert here.
    So what are your thoughts? No expert required, an expert/profesional is just someone who gets paid for their opinion.

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    "Repaint" is a term that had been use for decades in the way you cited for Wikipedia, but if you don't like it you could use "recolor" and most people will know what you're talking about.
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    I try to say "redeco" but slip sometimes out of old habit.

    I don't know how old you are, He-Bro, but I honestly can't remember a true repaint in my lifetime from a major company.

    The only instances I can think of are 4 minor Japanese market exclusive Transformers from the 90s that were literally (very minor) repaints, likely from the same production run. All Beast Wars 2/Beast Wars Neo.

    I've heard vintage Camo Khan was literally a repaint but that doesn't look right to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Secret View Post
    I try to say "redeco" but slip sometimes out of old habit.

    I don't know how old you are, He-Bro, but I honestly can't remember a true repaint in my lifetime from a major company.

    The only instances I can think of are 4 minor Japanese market exclusive Transformers from the 90s that were literally (very minor) repaints, likely from the same production run. All Beast Wars 2/Beast Wars Neo.

    I've heard vintage Camo Khan was literally a repaint but that doesn't look right to me.
    The term redeco, from what I understand, is when the same toy of a character gets updated paint apps. Like changing the shade of yellow on He-Man's boots or taking out the pink of Skeletor's cheeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smitty.81 View Post
    The term redeco, from what I understand, is when the same toy of a character gets updated paint apps. Like changing the shade of yellow on He-Man's boots or taking out the pink of Skeletor's cheeks.

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    Right but as He-Bro notes, some old toys were literally painted over and sold again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Secret View Post
    Right but as He-Bro notes, some old toys were literally painted over and sold again.
    I'm not sure that was done by the manufacturer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Secret View Post
    I don't know how old you are, He-Bro, but I honestly can't remember a true repaint in my lifetime from a major company.

    The only instances I can think of are 4 minor Japanese market exclusive Transformers from the 90s that were literally (very minor) repaints, likely from the same production run. All Beast Wars 2/Beast Wars Neo.
    I'm not sure I'd call the Japanese TF market minor, unless these were store exclusives or something. Which were the ones actually repainted?

    One example of repainting unsold stock did involve Transformers albeit from IGA, the 1980s Mexican licence holder. In the late 1980s a load of these were dumped on the European market as unofficial "grey imports" despite not meeting safety standards here, especially on lead paint. A lot had the packaging opened and the paint replaced before being resealed and recirculated. However within Europe these were not from either Hasbro itself or local licencees but instead were technically unofficial releases even though they had been official in Mexico.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timrollpickering2 View Post
    I'm not sure I'd call the Japanese TF market minor, unless these were store exclusives or something. Which were the ones actually repainted?
    The paint changes were minor, not the market.

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    He-bro , fine examples of this anti eternia heman , slime pit heman,and green goddess. They are new characters that exist in the mythos but are repaints of existing characters. I would say as a collector who has the vintage line and cherry picks the origins and masters verse these characters appeal to me, AS LONG AS THEY HAVE SOME MEDIA BACKING THEM UP. Now for a character like He-Skeletor, thats about as far of a streach im willing to go before you just start making up stuff, which there is plenty to draw from. Now for me small changes should be made to the characters (slime pit heman should have horde symbol on his harness, he- skeletor should have the plus sign bone pendent on his). And there are other characters that i feel like i would advocate for because they had a past media and fleshing them out would be fun. One character im a big proponent for is Negative Heman

    He predated Anti eternia heman, essentially drawing on the negative energy of Eternia till he mainfests himself in pyshical form. With all these fake heman around ( dont forget faker, He-slave(NA) and Cruncher (NA)) Faker could lead a sub, sub faction of the evil warriors, just like camo khan leads a sub faction of snake warriors, the Diabolical Snakes. Thats my take on it

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